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Old 01-04-2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by triode
Wow, the ZR-1 at over $100K was astounding, but a Z06??? The Cobalt interior must be distinctly more aggravating at 6 figures...
Not that it would matter since all you'll see from a 991 interior is taillights...
Old 01-05-2012 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by allegretto
Not that it would matter since all you'll see from a 991 interior is taillights...
No, if I had a 991S I'd also see my own well-crafted (if Panamera-ish) interior and be grooving to the sounds of the Burmester rig!

Seriously, it's hard to imagine anyone buying their 911 of choice and then regretting the decision every time a 'vette went by...two widely diverging buyer pools. The 'vettes are great sources of mega performance for relatively (but decreasingly) modest coin, but that's really it.
Old 01-06-2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by triode
No, if I had a 991S I'd also see my own well-crafted (if Panamera-ish) interior and be grooving to the sounds of the Burmester rig!

Seriously, it's hard to imagine anyone buying their 911 of choice and then regretting the decision every time a 'vette went by...two widely diverging buyer pools. The 'vettes are great sources of mega performance for relatively (but decreasingly) modest coin, but that's really it.
A few years ago I owned a Z 06 and then a .1 RS back to back. Was heavily into tracking at the time.

Both were fun, in different ways. The Z was easier to turn fast lap times. Both were a mess on the street, literally no fun due to the purpose-built nature. So in truth I can't say the RS served much more purpose or comfort or really anything. Both rides were cool, both rides were cold.

Old 01-06-2012 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alexb76
Guys... be careful with those numbers, that includes .4 seconds of roll! So, the TRUE number is more like 4.1 for 0-60, which is still impressive.
I believe it was a PDK car. LC makes all the difference.
Old 01-07-2012 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by alexb76
Guys... be careful with those numbers, that includes .4 seconds of roll! So, the TRUE number is more like 4.1 for 0-60, which is still impressive.
Yes, but that's always been the case for these car mags. Only a few sources, like Edmunds, don't use the roll out.
Old 01-08-2012 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shustermeister
C&D results:
0-60: 3.6s
0-100: 8.6s
1/4 mile: 12.0@118mph
To the OP - I am looking at the Feb 2012 R&T in front of me, and they got a 0-60 of 3.5 seconds, not 3.7.

0-100: 8.4s
1/4 mile: 11.8@118mph

Another stat - 74.1mph slalom speed, which is well ahead of all non-Cup tired 997 variants previously tested (but still a tick behind the Spyder, and well behind the GT cars). Personally, this impresses me more than the acceleration times, as these 7-speed transmissions allow for short gears to make nice numbers, but are annoying in daily use (IMO based on experience with the Panamera). FWIW, their PDK test car had a $115k MSRP.
Old 01-08-2012 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
To the OP - I am looking at the Feb 2012 R&T in front of me, and they got a 0-60 of 3.5 seconds, not 3.7.
FWIW, their PDK test car had a $115k MSRP.
I'm just blown away that the numbers on a Porsche are close to my old college Ninja! What was the spek for the $115 car? Base is about $96k, so probably not much. Maybe deviated stitching.
Old 01-09-2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Alstoy
I'm just blown away that the numbers on a Porsche are close to my old college Ninja! What was the spek for the $115 car? Base is about $96k, so probably not much. Maybe deviated stitching.
You'd be surprised - if you dont go for all the leather fru fru stuff, you can get quite a lot of car for $115K. For example, PDK, PASM, SC, Bose, Sat radio plus HD, PSE. You cant get PDCC, full leather, plus any "fancy" stuff. If I were to get one, I'd get a less "luxurious" one at around $115. I've already configured it out. I think nav comes standard - had to pay on my 997.2 for that plus BT, UAI etc.
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Originally Posted by alexb76
Guys... be careful with those numbers, that includes .4 seconds of roll! So, the TRUE number is more like 4.1 for 0-60, which is still impressive.
Huh? These are PDK cars with launch control. I do not believe you can use launch control other than from a complete stop...
Old 01-10-2012 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mspeedster
Yes, but that's always been the case for these car mags. Only a few sources, like Edmunds, don't use the roll out.
Where did you hear this?
Old 01-10-2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Where did you hear this?
Just making it up. Road and Track and Car and Driver have published many articles on how they test their cars. They don't do roll outs. Probably just a 997 owner who feels threatened by the 991.
Old 01-10-2012 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by texas911
Just making it up. Road and Track and Car and Driver have published many articles on how they test their cars. They don't do roll outs. Probably just a 997 owner who feels threatened by the 991.
+1 on the testing methodology for both mags. Standing start. Also, both have described testing launch control with numerous cars, and as mentioned above, you can't use LC with a roll out.
Old 01-10-2012 | 04:34 PM
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Yes they measure from a standing start, but they also definitely use 1 foot of roll out (the max available when staging for a quarter mile run) before the timer starts which deducts approx .2 to .3 seconds off a no roll out run to 60MPH!
Regardless, rest assured even a base Carrera without LC can break every speed limit in the country in under 5 seconds!
Old 01-11-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WCE
Regardless, rest assured even a base Carrera without LC can break every speed limit in the country in under 5 seconds!
Except Montana!
Old 01-11-2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WCE
Yes they measure from a standing start, but they also definitely use 1 foot of roll out (the max available when staging for a quarter mile run) before the timer starts which deducts approx .2 to .3 seconds off a no roll out run to 60MPH!
Even if true, as long as they use the same testing procedure for all the cars they test, the differences between times can still be fairly compared, and it does nothing to detract from the improvement the 991's numbers represent.


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