Driving Impressions of the 991
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Hello All,
I have been reading many of the 991 posts and everyone has been discussing how the 991 might drive etc.
So I thought I would ask the question. Has anyone on here driven the 991 yet? Please share your experiences and thoughts. Thanks.
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I have been reading many of the 991 posts and everyone has been discussing how the 991 might drive etc.
So I thought I would ask the question. Has anyone on here driven the 991 yet? Please share your experiences and thoughts. Thanks.
Cheers,
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No one outside of Porsche had DRIVEN a 991. The international media long-lead is in November in California. That's right...the world's motoring press will be in Cali for their first drive!
The reports from the hot weather testing were ride-alongs.
There was one person on another forum who claimed to have driven it but his claim has been verified as false.
The reports from the hot weather testing were ride-alongs.
There was one person on another forum who claimed to have driven it but his claim has been verified as false.
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SharpMan,
You are correct. I figured I would start a thread where people, journalists if any are members can post their experiences. I don't want theories as what the 991 drives like. I want facts from people that have driven one. I personally am looking forward to driven one. I still will value peoples opinions. Let the posting begin.
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You are correct. I figured I would start a thread where people, journalists if any are members can post their experiences. I don't want theories as what the 991 drives like. I want facts from people that have driven one. I personally am looking forward to driven one. I still will value peoples opinions. Let the posting begin.
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Here is an article from Auto Express, granted it is as a passenger not them driving it.
The new 911 is the most thorough reinvention of Porsche’s classic sports car ever. It benefits from significant structural, dimensional, technological and dynamic changes – and the result, from the passenger’s seat, is great news for fans of the iconic car.
Porsche will let us behind the wheel of the new 991 generation 911 next month, but whet our appetites with a passenger ride around its undulating Weissach test track in Germany. And a Porsche development driver gave us a tantalising glimpse of the car’s incredible performance.
Firstly, let’s put Porsche fans out of their misery. The tech-laden new 911 loses none of its personality. It feels composed, agile and brutally quick with masses of grip.
Our driver explained that the big step forward in ability is down to the 991’s new electronic assistance features, plus its lighter and stiffer body (44 per cent of which is now constructed from aluminium).
Key changes over the old 997 include a 100mm longer wheelbase, wider front track, larger wheels, 20mm lower roofline and a 40kg weight reduction. In terms of technology, the car features a new seven-speed manual gearbox, Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) for the Carrera S we rode in and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), with a locking rear differential.
From the passenger seat it all looked so easy: the wheel never squirmed in our driver’s hands, despite the obscene speed and constant direction changes at the Weissach track. The 911’s lack of understeer and minimal tyre squeal are a sign that, unless seriously provoked, each wheel is being taken to the limit of its grip by the electronics, and not beyond.
Through the turns the 991 stayed sublimely neutral, with any hint of body roll eliminated by the PDCC roll stabilisation. But if you’ve got the talent and desire, beautifully controllable and predictable oversteer is available on demand.
We asked our driver about the new electro-mechanical power-steering system. It’s a controversial addition, as some purists fear it may rob the 911 of its character, but he insisted the system took nothing away from the steering feel. And he assured us that fellow Porsche development driver and rallying legend Walter Röhrl concurred.
On the track, the 991 feels even faster than Porsche’s official figures suggest. The entry-level Carrera – with 350bhp from its all-new smaller-displacement 3.4-litre engine – sprints from 0-62mph in 4.6 seconds with the dual-clutch PDK automatic gearbox, while the 400bhp 3.8-litre Carrera S manages 4.3 seconds with PDK fitted.
Both times can be reduced by specifying the optional Sport Chrono Pack, which adds launch control. We were told the Carrera S, with all the options ticked, can lap the Nurburgring Nordschleife in seven minutes 40 seconds – that’s 14 seconds quicker than before.
You sit low in the 991, and with the interior inspired by the Panamera, there’s a huge step up in luxury, while refinement at low speeds is improved, too. But on full throttle, it sounds as throaty as ever. Porsche has a dedicated Emotions department focusing on amplifying induction and engine acoustics into the cabin.
There’s nothing artificial about the noise – it’s a pure, unadulterated boxer flat-six sound complete with vibrations through the seat of your trousers. It can be turned down at the touch of a button, too, should you need some quiet time.
Although there’s no substitute for getting behind the wheel, our time in the passenger seat around Weissach showed that the new 991 generation raises the 911 bar again on every level. It’s faster, safer, lighter and better handling than ever before – and in Carrera form with the PDK gearbox, it even returns fuel economy of 34.4mpg. And as for the emotion? It’s still there in spades.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...#ixzz1bjfIKlBR
The new 911 is the most thorough reinvention of Porsche’s classic sports car ever. It benefits from significant structural, dimensional, technological and dynamic changes – and the result, from the passenger’s seat, is great news for fans of the iconic car.
Porsche will let us behind the wheel of the new 991 generation 911 next month, but whet our appetites with a passenger ride around its undulating Weissach test track in Germany. And a Porsche development driver gave us a tantalising glimpse of the car’s incredible performance.
Firstly, let’s put Porsche fans out of their misery. The tech-laden new 911 loses none of its personality. It feels composed, agile and brutally quick with masses of grip.
Our driver explained that the big step forward in ability is down to the 991’s new electronic assistance features, plus its lighter and stiffer body (44 per cent of which is now constructed from aluminium).
Key changes over the old 997 include a 100mm longer wheelbase, wider front track, larger wheels, 20mm lower roofline and a 40kg weight reduction. In terms of technology, the car features a new seven-speed manual gearbox, Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) for the Carrera S we rode in and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), with a locking rear differential.
From the passenger seat it all looked so easy: the wheel never squirmed in our driver’s hands, despite the obscene speed and constant direction changes at the Weissach track. The 911’s lack of understeer and minimal tyre squeal are a sign that, unless seriously provoked, each wheel is being taken to the limit of its grip by the electronics, and not beyond.
Through the turns the 991 stayed sublimely neutral, with any hint of body roll eliminated by the PDCC roll stabilisation. But if you’ve got the talent and desire, beautifully controllable and predictable oversteer is available on demand.
We asked our driver about the new electro-mechanical power-steering system. It’s a controversial addition, as some purists fear it may rob the 911 of its character, but he insisted the system took nothing away from the steering feel. And he assured us that fellow Porsche development driver and rallying legend Walter Röhrl concurred.
On the track, the 991 feels even faster than Porsche’s official figures suggest. The entry-level Carrera – with 350bhp from its all-new smaller-displacement 3.4-litre engine – sprints from 0-62mph in 4.6 seconds with the dual-clutch PDK automatic gearbox, while the 400bhp 3.8-litre Carrera S manages 4.3 seconds with PDK fitted.
Both times can be reduced by specifying the optional Sport Chrono Pack, which adds launch control. We were told the Carrera S, with all the options ticked, can lap the Nurburgring Nordschleife in seven minutes 40 seconds – that’s 14 seconds quicker than before.
You sit low in the 991, and with the interior inspired by the Panamera, there’s a huge step up in luxury, while refinement at low speeds is improved, too. But on full throttle, it sounds as throaty as ever. Porsche has a dedicated Emotions department focusing on amplifying induction and engine acoustics into the cabin.
There’s nothing artificial about the noise – it’s a pure, unadulterated boxer flat-six sound complete with vibrations through the seat of your trousers. It can be turned down at the touch of a button, too, should you need some quiet time.
Although there’s no substitute for getting behind the wheel, our time in the passenger seat around Weissach showed that the new 991 generation raises the 911 bar again on every level. It’s faster, safer, lighter and better handling than ever before – and in Carrera form with the PDK gearbox, it even returns fuel economy of 34.4mpg. And as for the emotion? It’s still there in spades.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...#ixzz1bjfIKlBR
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Why don't you ask Walter Rohrl? He test drove the s..t out of a 991!
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Read the thread below about Walter Rohrl's first impressions. He's basically saying that the 991 is the best 911 ever in his opinion. I know he's working for Porsche,but he's a serious guy,he's german,he's not BS-ing around like that. He would say if he thinks that something is off and he certainly wouldn't call it the best ever if it wasn't. That's a really bold statement, even from a Porsche guy and we all know Porsche can be cautious even with their performance numbers.
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He's a paid employee. He is invested in more ways than one as a development driver of the new car. I wouldn't consider his comments unbiased. I just read the article in Automobile where he is quoted considerably.
Sorry, but he comes off completely biased. I don't have the exact quote but something like "Let me try to get the car sideways... second gear no, maybe first... oh I'm out of revs, I can't do it! The new 911 won't let me get sideways, the days of loose rear end Porsche 911's are over." Oh boy...
I too am waiting for the unbiased reviews...
Oh and first post here- waiting to see if the new 911 is my next car!
Sorry, but he comes off completely biased. I don't have the exact quote but something like "Let me try to get the car sideways... second gear no, maybe first... oh I'm out of revs, I can't do it! The new 911 won't let me get sideways, the days of loose rear end Porsche 911's are over." Oh boy...
I too am waiting for the unbiased reviews...
Oh and first post here- waiting to see if the new 911 is my next car!
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Oh let's be exact- here's the actual qoute from the article:
When we asked Roehrl to put in a couple of sideways stints, his face lit up and he instantly shifted down a gear or two. But we soon found out that this 911 is now a talented carver, no longer a casual slider. "This can't be true," he said. "Maybe I need first gear. No, we're running out of revs much too soon. Second then, perhaps, let's try again. Go, go, go! Still does not want to do it. Just does not want to do it. Maybe it's my driving style. I always need to have the car absolutely straight again at the exit of the bend. That's better now, much better. But I was expecting more attitude, much more attitude."
Does this sound unbiased to you? Maybe it's lost in translation.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...n/viewall.html
When we asked Roehrl to put in a couple of sideways stints, his face lit up and he instantly shifted down a gear or two. But we soon found out that this 911 is now a talented carver, no longer a casual slider. "This can't be true," he said. "Maybe I need first gear. No, we're running out of revs much too soon. Second then, perhaps, let's try again. Go, go, go! Still does not want to do it. Just does not want to do it. Maybe it's my driving style. I always need to have the car absolutely straight again at the exit of the bend. That's better now, much better. But I was expecting more attitude, much more attitude."
Does this sound unbiased to you? Maybe it's lost in translation.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...n/viewall.html
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Well, there are at least two possibilities. Either he honestly likes the car or he is biased. Your conclusion is that he "comes off completly biased". Really? Why? Because he doesn't find fault? Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that the car really is terrific and he does really like it. How should Roerhl communicate that in a way that you wouldn't find biased? Your assumption apparently is that Roerhl is willing to jeapordize his storied reputation, play the good Porsche employee, and praise a car he actually finds lacking. Maybe. Seems to me though, that there's a lot more bias and presumption in that perspective than there is in Roerhl's comment.
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Well, there are at least two possibilities. Either he honestly likes the car or he is biased. Your conclusion is that he "comes off completly biased". Really? Why? Because he doesn't find fault? Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that the car really is terrific and he does really like it. How should Roerhl communicate that in a way that you wouldn't find biased? Your assumption apparently is that Roerhl is willing to jeapordize his storied reputation, play the good Porsche employee, and praise a car he actually finds lacking. Maybe. Seems to me though, that there's a lot more bias and presumption in that perspective than there is in Roerhl's comment.
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