TOP GEAR DRIVES 991
07-04-2011, 03:06 AM
#16
Rennlist Member
993...
gary as usual makes a long winded reply full of facts and stuff that makes your head spin. Thank you gary for making this site worth reading. edgy, I think that the 964/993 are very close mechanicals wise. the 993 skin is fabulous and I am leaning that way for my next weekend car buy.
keynes
keynes
Ditto. 993 for the weekends. Possibly a nice open air cab...
07-04-2011, 05:19 AM
#17
Rennlist Member
My view of the 991 is clear: It will be an awesome car! It will most probably be a better performer than the 997.2.
I learned about the 991's longer WB a long time ago and immediately expressed my concern about changes in its handling as I care about that. I drive a 911 because I love its unique characteristics. When those characteristics change (and they have with the 991 - several reports clearly say that its dynamic characteristics have changed, as the car is far more stable)... My 997.2 is already a much more refined car than the 996/993/964 were. It comes a point when the refinements changes the original 911 characteristics completely. I do not want a super stable/refined car, or better weight distribution.
So there you have it. It's not poopooing the 991. The 991 will be an awesome car, but nor for all of us. I bet that most Porsche buyers these days won't know the difference.
I learned about the 991's longer WB a long time ago and immediately expressed my concern about changes in its handling as I care about that. I drive a 911 because I love its unique characteristics. When those characteristics change (and they have with the 991 - several reports clearly say that its dynamic characteristics have changed, as the car is far more stable)... My 997.2 is already a much more refined car than the 996/993/964 were. It comes a point when the refinements changes the original 911 characteristics completely. I do not want a super stable/refined car, or better weight distribution.
So there you have it. It's not poopooing the 991. The 991 will be an awesome car, but nor for all of us. I bet that most Porsche buyers these days won't know the difference.
07-04-2011, 03:09 PM
#18
Race Director
My '84 3.2 Carrera had NO power steering and many felt those non-boosted cars were the last 911's with "proper" steering feel. It's a matter of preference, but in general I think they were wrong. IMO, until we've had a chance to drive the 991 I don't see how any judgements can be made about the steering.
07-04-2011, 05:31 PM
#19
Rennlist Member
07-04-2011, 10:57 PM
#20
Drifting
and the electric steering - also CAFE driven. I've yet to read a good review of electric power steering in any car that has it.
07-05-2011, 04:46 PM
#21
Rennlist Member
I beg to differ. ABS, AWD, airbags, power steering, twin-plug 3.6 - it may not look much different, but underneath there were huge advances with the 964, arguably more than 964->993.
Until Porsche states this as fact, it is an internet rumor. The way I see it, the timeline just doesn't work out; the hard points of the 991 had to have been established years before the legislation.
From a design standpoint, the wheelbase needed to be stretched to work with a more raked windshield.
From a design standpoint, the wheelbase needed to be stretched to work with a more raked windshield.
