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Old Jun 18, 2025 | 05:35 PM
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Hi everyone,

Hoping for some guidance here.

I’ve owned my 991 for four years and it’s been great, except for one issue. In the last six months or so the battery is out of charge when I try to start the car, and it’s been happening more frequently. I had the battery replaced a few months ago, and things were okay for a while, but now it’s happening again.

i took it to my local Porsche dealer who claimed that everything is fine and his response was:

”the vehicle started up immediately without a prolonged crank, afterwards we did a Draw test on monday and the car passed, tuesday the vehicle sat for majority of the day, Today we performed anoth parasitic draw test and the car passed as again, everytime we would let the car sit for a long duration of time the car would start with no issue at all.


This is now about the fourth or fifth time that the battery has died a day after being fully charged. I make sure the doors are always locked, lights are off and no accessories are plugged in. Haven’t hooked it up to a trickle charger, but don’t think I need to since I’m daily driving it.

Just at a loss of what to do now. If the car still has this problem when I get it back I’m going to take it to a good independent shop in my area for a second opinion.

Wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences and what may be causing this?

Thanks in advance for any help…

Andrew
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 09:32 AM
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Dealers are barely qualified to do oil changes any longer. You obviously have a draw somewhere batteries don't die without a draw. At some point after sitting for some time a draw occurs. Someone needs to let it sit and check for a draw at intervals. Dealers will be to stupid or lazy to execute this correctly.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 09:47 AM
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For what it's worth, I replaced my battery....with a bad "new" battery. Was OK at first and then wouldn't even hold a charge on a tender. Second one was fine. Typically once they loose all charge they do not get back to "full" capability. Can't emagine what would all of a sudden start a draw down in the last six months.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 10:40 AM
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Does the car really go to sleep after you lock it?

If you have the sport chrono does it go to 12 after about 30 seconds when you lock the car?

No aftermarket stereo stuff or phone charger plugged in?
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CSK 911 C4S
Does the car really go to sleep after you lock it?

If you have the sport chrono does it go to 12 after about 30 seconds when you lock the car?

No aftermarket stereo stuff or phone charger plugged in?
That’s a good idea to check that. I believe it does have sport Chrono. It’s a PDK S-Model and it has the clock on the dash. I double checked to make sure no accessories are plugged in, but it wouldn’t hurt to check a third time. A USB drive is plugged in, but it’s just music on there.

You would think a large service department at a dealership would be able to figure this out, but like a lot here have said, they’ve been pretty useless so far.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

Andrew
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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definitely you should find an independent porsche shop near you and use them.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KTM1290
That’s a good idea to check that. I believe it does have sport Chrono. It’s a PDK S-Model and it has the clock on the dash. I double checked to make sure no accessories are plugged in, but it wouldn’t hurt to check a third time. A USB drive is plugged in, but it’s just music on there.

You would think a large service department at a dealership would be able to figure this out, but like a lot here have said, they’ve been pretty useless so far.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

Andrew
USB drives can draw power. Mine are hot to the touch so they are definitely pulling juice, even when the car is off. Also, do you have a radar detector plugged in? They will also draw power.
I have a battery charger that has a both voltage and current draw readouts. This tells me if the car is drawing current when off. My 911 (991.2 GTS) is pretty good at goes to 0.0 amps when off (at 13.6 V), but my Macan GTS draws 0.4 amps when off with the car locked and off. Both cars have Sport Chrono.
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Old Jun 22, 2025 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DHL
USB drives can draw power. Mine are hot to the touch so they are definitely pulling juice, even when the car is off. Also, do you have a radar detector plugged in? They will also draw power.
I have a battery charger that has a both voltage and current draw readouts. This tells me if the car is drawing current when off. My 911 (991.2 GTS) is pretty good at goes to 0.0 amps when off (at 13.6 V), but my Macan GTS draws 0.4 amps when off with the car locked and off. Both cars have Sport Chrono.
If you connect a battery charger to your car that supplies 13.6 Volts , after the electronic circuit has gone to sleepimg mode and your battery is fully charged, you neither should read 0.0 Amperes nor 0.4 Amperes.
After charging the battery fully, 13.6 V for an AGM battery is the "floating mode". A healthy battery (if 70 Ah to 90 Ah) still will draw 0,05 A to 0,15 A, depending on age, temperature and health status. Infinetely (almost).
On top, even fully asleep, the car electronics will draw 0,02 A - 0,035 A. What you should expect to read after prolonged charging is something between 0,07A and 0,2 A.
I suspect your 991.2 GTS just switched off the connection to the charger (which it does under certain conditions) , and your Macan with 0,4 A may have a small problem.
Please remember : A residual current of 0.25 A accumulates to 6 Ah per day, 42 Ah per week.
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Originally Posted by DHL
USB drives can draw power. Mine are hot to the touch so they are definitely pulling juice, even when the car is off. Also, do you have a radar detector plugged in? They will also draw power.
I have a battery charger that has a both voltage and current draw readouts. This tells me if the car is drawing current when off. My 911 (991.2 GTS) is pretty good at goes to 0.0 amps when off (at 13.6 V), but my Macan GTS draws 0.4 amps when off with the car locked and off. Both cars have Sport Chrono.
Interesting. As a first time 911 owner, I’m learning a lot about the quirks of this car from Rennlist. On my other cars, I always left a USB stick plugged in without any problems, but like folks say on here, I see how it could be an issue.

Since I’ve gotten the car returned, nothing’s been in the USB port and the battery has stayed charged, and it’s been sitting for the last three days and started up yesterday, so keeping my fingers crossed that things are okay now. If the problem continues, there’s an independent shop with good reviews (Arbormotion in AA) which I will take it to.

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On Sunday I took my 2012 C2S off the trickle charger and backed it out of the garage to wash the dust off of it.
I had a Wed appt at the local dealer that sold the car new, but not to me., I have owned it 7 years 7k miles. This dealer has been the only place to service it since new. The original battery was replace April 2024. I did not put the trickle charger back on since it was going in on Wed for 2 tires. Got in it Wed and it would no turn over. Where it was in garage I couldn't get jumper cables on so put charger on and rescheduled for Fri. Tires on no problem. Battery check not so good. The Interstate battery which was is rated for 950 coca was reading only 488 after 14 months. So just because it's fairly new doesn't mean it can't be the problem.
The SA told me it's under warranty so no problem replacing it except I would need to pay the $289 installation fee again because Interstate Batteries only pays for the installation up to 12 months under warranty. I told the SA I didn't think it was right to change me again. In retrospect I should have asked to see if it was checked for ccw when installed but I didn't. He finally agreed that I would not have to pay for the installation. As I was walked to the cashier I was told if it happened again I would be expected to pay. After 7 years of annual service without question I felt it was beneath the dealership but it all the turnover I was wrong.
As a side note I always get surveyed shortly after leaving and requests until I fill them out. This time crickets. Will be looking for an independent to service it going forward.
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Autobahnschreck
If you connect a battery charger to your car that supplies 13.6 Volts , after the electronic circuit has gone to sleepimg mode and your battery is fully charged, you neither should read 0.0 Amperes nor 0.4 Amperes.
After charging the battery fully, 13.6 V for an AGM battery is the "floating mode". A healthy battery (if 70 Ah to 90 Ah) still will draw 0,05 A to 0,15 A, depending on age, temperature and health status. Infinetely (almost).
On top, even fully asleep, the car electronics will draw 0,02 A - 0,035 A. What you should expect to read after prolonged charging is something between 0,07A and 0,2 A.
I suspect your 991.2 GTS just switched off the connection to the charger (which it does under certain conditions) , and your Macan with 0,4 A may have a small problem.
Please remember : A residual current of 0.25 A accumulates to 6 Ah per day, 42 Ah per week.
Not sure where you get your facts. My charger is connected directly across the battery terminals in both cars, so there is nothing the car can do to shut it off. If the car is drawing down the battery then the charger will sense the drop in voltage and supply current. It is a simple energy balance. The charger is set for "Power Supply" mode so it outputs a fixed 13.5 V no matter what (up to a max current of 20 Amps). An internal leakage current in the battery will also show as a current draw, in addition to any draw the car is providing. The internal draw on a good AGM is close to zero (after the initial hook up to stabilize the voltage of course). The battery charger readout is accurate to +/- .05 A with a resolution of 0.1 A, so its not going to report currents of 0.05A. These cars have a myriad of systems that are fully on and hot with the ignition off. This includes the alarms systems, OBD2 evap emissions control system (does offline pressure tests), the air suspension system (Macan), and the NAV system (among others). So it does not surprise me there is some current draw on the charger. There is nothing wrong with the Macan. Sometimes it draws 0.4 A as I said and sometimes it draws 0 like the 911.
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ApexInNC
On Sunday I took my 2012 C2S off the trickle charger and backed it out of the garage to wash the dust off of it.
I had a Wed appt at the local dealer that sold the car new, but not to me., I have owned it 7 years 7k miles. This dealer has been the only place to service it since new. The original battery was replace April 2024. I did not put the trickle charger back on since it was going in on Wed for 2 tires. Got in it Wed and it would no turn over. Where it was in garage I couldn't get jumper cables on so put charger on and rescheduled for Fri. Tires on no problem. Battery check not so good. The Interstate battery which was is rated for 950 coca was reading only 488 after 14 months. So just because it's fairly new doesn't mean it can't be the problem.
The SA told me it's under warranty so no problem replacing it except I would need to pay the $289 installation fee again because Interstate Batteries only pays for the installation up to 12 months under warranty. I told the SA I didn't think it was right to change me again. In retrospect I should have asked to see if it was checked for ccw when installed but I didn't. He finally agreed that I would not have to pay for the installation. As I was walked to the cashier I was told if it happened again I would be expected to pay. After 7 years of annual service without question I felt it was beneath the dealership but it all the turnover I was wrong.
As a side note I always get surveyed shortly after leaving and requests until I fill them out. This time crickets. Will be looking for an independent to service it going forward.
You can get "new" batteries that have been on the shelf for many months and thus be compromised. But if you do not use a charger religiously then you can also develop a battery charge deffecit because the current draw used to start the car is not replenished fully by the car's charging system, esp if you do a lot of short trips. Over a long period of time this can kill your battery. Trickle chargers that output only a few amps may not make up this charge defficit. That is why I use a full 20 amp charger because these will have no problem fully charging your battery within the first few hours of when they are connected.
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Originally Posted by KTM1290
Hi everyone,

Hoping for some guidance here.

I’ve owned my 991 for four years and it’s been great, except for one issue. In the last six months or so the battery is out of charge when I try to start the car, and it’s been happening more frequently. I had the battery replaced a few months ago, and things were okay for a while, but now it’s happening again.

i took it to my local Porsche dealer who claimed that everything is fine and his response was:

”the vehicle started up immediately without a prolonged crank, afterwards we did a Draw test on monday and the car passed, tuesday the vehicle sat for majority of the day, Today we performed anoth parasitic draw test and the car passed as again, everytime we would let the car sit for a long duration of time the car would start with no issue at all.


This is now about the fourth or fifth time that the battery has died a day after being fully charged. I make sure the doors are always locked, lights are off and no accessories are plugged in. Haven’t hooked it up to a trickle charger, but don’t think I need to since I’m daily driving it.

Just at a loss of what to do now. If the car still has this problem when I get it back I’m going to take it to a good independent shop in my area for a second opinion.

Wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences and what may be causing this?

Thanks in advance for any help…

Andrew
As several said the USB Devices though they seem innocent can draw pretty high for the small things they do because these companies aren't concerned with how efficient the energy they are using is. For example we tracked a 12w usb charger drawing 2 amps which is just crazy for something so simple. So hopefully your problem is cured.

ON another note we sell a bluetooth device that tracks all the voltage data from you battery and you can view all that on your phone. So you can know the effects of the parastic draw on your battery and how fast is draining it. It will show if you charging system is charging and how much while driving, it does a start test showing the voltage drop which is important to see if you battery is failing because the voltage drop on starting will get low... plus a few cool other things. Its reallty helpful for analyzing and tracking issues like this. Also alerts you of low battery ... all via bluetooth.

Link Battery Tracker...https://antigravitybatteries.com/pro...tooth-tracker/

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As several said the USB Devices though they seem innocent can draw pretty high for the small things they do because these companies aren't concerned with how efficient the energy they are using is. For example we tracked a 12w usb charger drawing 2 amps which is just crazy for something so simple. So hopefully your problem is cured.

ON another note we sell a bluetooth device that tracks all the voltage data from you battery and you can view all that on your phone. So you can know the effects of the parastic draw on your battery and how fast is draining it. It will show if you charging system is charging and how much while driving, it does a start test showing the voltage drop which is important to see if you battery is failing because the voltage drop on starting will get low... plus a few cool other things. Its reallty helpful for analyzing and tracking issues like this. Also alerts you of low battery ... all via bluetooth.

Link Battery Tracker...https://antigravitybatteries.com/pro...tooth-tracker/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDkMx9HEHY
Thanks for letting me know about this, I ordered the device, but being out of state currently, I haven’t had a chance to unbox it yet and hook it up. Is it hooked up through the 12v port, directly to the battery, or somewhere else? Can it be used while driving ?



Take care, Andrew
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All the above but for whatever it's worth I use a trickle charger the car lives on which helps down here in the Texas heat. Once I pull the car in, I toss fans on the front to cool it and the trickle charger is plugged in......
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