DME looks very clean. Seller says 5x track days. Thats nothing for these cars. Incredible car for the price. Everything you need, nothing you don't.

 

Thanks for adding the link- I was in the middle of something and didn’t have time to hunt for it. 👍

 

Not enough data there IMO. classic.com allows you to follow specific markets which aggregate. You'll get a better idea of what sold across various sites etc.

I'm pretty sketch on a 4 year old car OVER MSRP but I guess this is the time we live in. I bought my 2018 GTS PDK for 35K under MSRP just a few months ago. It had been on BAT and did not sell due to reserve. 26Kmi at the time, decently serviced, PPF and no accidents. Very clean and had everything I wanted (GTS/leather plus a few others).

 

Is it EXACTLY what you want and what is it worth to you? At that or any price I would want an over-rev check and a paint check.

I paid a hefty price for mine in 2018, but less than MSRP for a 98 mile car with lots of options. It was worth it to ME.

 

Comparable MSRP is what now? 150? 160k?
Sorry base to base. It's up 30k vs 2019

 

Points against RWS: 1) extra complexity can add cost to ownership on long term(speculation), 2) extra weight, in particular for the T is against the “lightweight” ethos the T is marketed for, 3) Cup cars don’t have it, so apparently they think it’s not needed for 911’s to perform on track

Personally, I notice it the most in a parking lot or when doing a u-turn, but it is noticeable in the canyons when pushing the car at a comfortable 7/10 limit. Some like it, others don’t, I’m ambivalent and wouldn’t let that option stop me from buying a car I otherwise like.

I only say this because first time buyers seem to get fixated on specific options like this, thinking they’re missing out on something if they don’t get it. However, as we’re discussing here, it is extremely hard finding good cars on the used market with a specific set of options so I think it can help to be a little flexible on some of them. Some people really love RWS and will say they won’t buy a car without it, so obviously the opinions, like most, exist on a spectrum. I just don’t want someone to pass on an otherwise great car with great history just because it doesn’t have RWS. If I find a good car from hood owner and it doesn’t have RWS but it’s 90% otherwise there, I’d jump on it without thinking twice.

 

The price is good, especially if the following conditions are met:
- Porsche dealer with CPO
- Clean Carfax showing at LEAST once oil change although should be more given the age of the vehicle.
- CLEAN DME REPORT - Little to no over-revs in the 4-6 range.
- Paint checks out with meter
- Tread and brake pads > 40% remaining

 

It's not Porsche. It Indy in the NW

 

Manual GTS, great car and best of both worlds for comfort and fun. Price doesn't seem that crazy. Manual cars with good options will definitely command a bit of a premium.

 

Dealer recently offered to buy my '18 GTS for what I paid him for it new. It is a manual RWD coupe, two options (GT silver paint and guards red seat belts), dealer serviced with 20k miles. After he'd CPO the car and add his nut, the price would be well over MSRP.

 

She sold today for $116k!

 

That car had no options based on the window sticker.

 

Add the $5k buyer fee and this thing sold close to its MSRP.

 

Sound advice to anyone in the hunt for a 911. There are so many options and color configurations that you will mostly never find the car you want unless you specced it to your liking from new.
I always told myself I would never buy a used 991 GTS which had red GTS interior package (wanted black or silver) but when I realized the size of the market, I had no choice but to change my mind. I however did not bulge on the body color (black). In hindsight, I like the red interior, it brings a bit of life in this otherwise very dark interior.
For my 993, I always wanted a Varioram engine and a rear wiper, I found a very good car in my budget which had none of these and I absolutely don't regret it. I would still be looking for a 993 as of today had I not changed my mind.

 

The GTS hold value quite well. It’s a fun and capable car at a good price point. The offers that have been made on some preowned GTS cars have been impressive. But in the end, most 911 cars are rare if you start demanding exterior color, interior color, options, transmission. The numbers of cars made that check those boxes are few. Now go find that car on the used market.

If you find a car that checks those boxes, then buy it. You’ll forget about the premium when you’re flogging the car and having an ear to ear grin. If you pass on the car, it might be a few years before another pops up. You will have missed that time driving the car and the price might actually be higher. We are not getting any younger. Best to you!