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Old 08-31-2022 | 02:56 PM
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I know it all boils down to personal taste but I'd like to hear from folks who have experience with both 911's and Panamera's.
I've been a 911 driver for over 40 years with a couple of 928's mixed in. Always been a stick shift guy. My current ride is a 19 Carrera GTS which I love. I'm no kid and I'm thinking that the Panny might be a better choice for me now. I have an order in for a new Panny GTS which is arriving in a few weeks - I ordered the GTS as it is the sportiest version of the Panny. I still love the driving dynamics of the 911 and I'm thinking that the GTS version might keep me happy. But its a big, heavy sedan - quite a different animal than a 911.
I don't need a sedan so that's not part of the decision.
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If you don’t need a sedan why would you want one? Hard to compare cars that are designed for different uses. One is better at carrying 4 people and the other is better at everything else.
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Drove both the 911 GTS (.2) and a Panamera GTS at Circuit of the Americas in 2019. I was very surprised at the capabilities of the Panamera even when driven aggressively, it felt lighter than it was, but there were some spots where the transition of weight was very noticeable.

I found the driving position for a daily driver to be more comfortable in the Panamera.

Would I choose the Panamera over a 911 as an only car? No.

Would I love to have both? Yes.
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No offense to anyone, but in my opinion the Panamera is a mediocre car that's nowhere near worth it's cost.
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Old 08-31-2022 | 05:32 PM
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I would get a Taycan rather than a Panamera. I also am not a fan of Porsche V6 engines. They have a lot of leak issues.
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I would get a Taycan rather than a Panamera. I also am not a fan of Porsche V6 engines. They have a lot of leak issues.
Arent they more of VW/Audi engines and doesn’t everything Porsche sell that’s based on VW/Audi stuff have more issues than the Cayman and 911 which are the only two Porsche exclusive platforms, with Porsche exclusive drivetrains? Essentially to say the Macan/Panamera/Cayenne/etc. are at their core a VW product with Porsche styling and tuning, so at their core they’re inferior to the exclusively engineered Porsche products.
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Buy a Cadillac. Just kidding. I can see how at a certain age some of us might want to move to a Panamera vs. a 911. My 80 year old Father sold his 2011 997.2 about three years ago as he was no longer comfortable driving it. It had a proper manual transmission. Just do you and don’t give a gas about what us on here or anyone else thinks. I had an ‘89 928GT. Cool you had a 928 as well. Miss that car.
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Both wonderful cars, but my take after driving a Panny at a Porsche World track event was that it felt like driving a 911 with a 911 tailgqting tightly.
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I have a 991.1, 970.2 Panamera, and a 2022 Cayenne, all GTS models. I like sports cars but prefer something more practical for a DD. The Cayenne was supposed to convince me to sell the Panamera but it had the opposite effect on me because of the 700 fewer pounds. My guess is you will be very satisfied with the Panamera.
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Well I just bought a 2019 Panamera 4 about 3 weeks ago. I traded a 2014 C2S. As I was driving down to the P car dealer to take delivery I felt like I was taking my best ever dog to the vet to be put down. In this stupid car market the only way to make sense was to trade the 911. I had no thoughts of doing this but the Panny is loaded with options and only 3500 miles plus 3 and a half years of factory and CPO warranty. I thought about it for a day or so and pulled the trigger. This makes way more sense for me for awhile. The Panny will make a great car that my wife can enjoy and I like it quite a bit. Of course the 911 is the car of my dreams and I’ll buy another one in a couple of years or less when the market gets back to some semblance of normal. In the meantime it certainly isn’t hard to enjoy this fabulous sedan, and I still have a great pickup.
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I guess I'm lucky to have enough cars so I don't have to compromise. My daily drivers are an F-150 PowerBoost, which is a *great* truck, and a C2S Cab. The F-150 is an ideal truck, and the 911 is an ideal sports car. Neither is a compromise. I had a Macan before and found that, even apart from the insanely ****ty reliability (engine out 3x for leaks, bad transfer case, PDK failure, on and on...), it wasn't a good sports car and it wasn't a good truck. I guess if you had to drive just one car, the Macan would be ok (similar to the Panamera). But if I were in that position, I'd just drive the F-150 anyway.
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Originally Posted by MingusDew
Arent they more of VW/Audi engines and doesn’t everything Porsche sell that’s based on VW/Audi stuff have more issues than the Cayman and 911 which are the only two Porsche exclusive platforms, with Porsche exclusive drivetrains? Essentially to say the Macan/Panamera/Cayenne/etc. are at their core a VW product with Porsche styling and tuning, so at their core they’re inferior to the exclusively engineered Porsche products.
Porsche is in the business of producing cars. The money earned from a 911 is no different than that earned from a Cayenne. Without the “exclusively NOT engineered Porsche products” you would have no 911 in the future. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by MingusDew
Arent they more of VW/Audi engines and doesn’t everything Porsche sell that’s based on VW/Audi stuff have more issues than the Cayman and 911 which are the only two Porsche exclusive platforms, with Porsche exclusive drivetrains? Essentially to say the Macan/Panamera/Cayenne/etc. are at their core a VW product with Porsche styling and tuning, so at their core they’re inferior to the exclusively engineered Porsche products.
My Macan S has a Porsche derived V6 and has /had leak issues so it’s not just the Audi engines. I like the Panamera but I also think it’s overpriced. I also don’t think they will be selling them much longer.
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Originally Posted by Rischey
Porsche is in the business of producing cars. The money earned from a 911 is no different than that earned from a Cayenne. Without the “exclusively NOT engineered Porsche products” you would have no 911 in the future. Get over it.
That’s really kind of a straw man argument. I commented on the reliability of the vehicles, not the business case to make things other than sports cars. But I’ll stop derailing the original topic; which really had nothing to do with what either of us are talking about.
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