Replace Cayman with 911?
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For the .2's, leaks in the water pump is one issue that seems to recur. I don't know whether the .1's were affected by this. There are a few threads on .2 water pumps failing, requiring replacement, as well as additional parts. There is also discussion of Porsche now offering an extended warranty on replacement water pumps, but the details escape me or are in the threads.
Door panel warping seems to recur, for those cars with the plastic interior (not full leather). Again, not sure if both .1 and .2 were/are affected. I would guess so. Additional info, root cause and repair prognosis, below. Pedro is a PCA member of the Suncoast region, and has a lot of experience repairing these in his garage in FL:
http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site_5/Warped%21.html
The two gas-pressure struts that hold up the rear engine compartment deck lid seem to fail. Heat gets to them, resulting in loss of seal for the gas, and they no longer hold up. Mine ('17 C2) were just replaced under warranty. To check, just lift up the rear deck lid, and wait about a minute. If they have failed, the lid will slowwwwwwwly drop back and then clunk back into the latch.
I would definitely check the A/C system on a 5-7 year old car, actually any car. Refrigerant can leak and may need to be addressed.
Otherwise usual rules apply, look for good consistent routine maintenance, regular check ups, oil changes, etc. etc. in a used car. These cars (.1's and .2's) seem to be in a sweet spot for Porsche; not too old that they have persistent problems, not so much high tech that requires a PhD in Software Engineering to resolve, and build quality and design that ends up with fewer than average trips back to the dealer.
Lastly, and you may know this, but "CPO" doesn't necessarily mean "100% perfect cosmetically". Although Porsche touts CPO as the be all and end all, or likes to give the impression the car is like new, in practice, judging by the reports of folks who have had issues with CPO cars, there seems to be a variety of what's acceptable to "CPO" a car. It is however a very worthwhile warranty to have on an older Porsche, that much is for sure.
Door panel warping seems to recur, for those cars with the plastic interior (not full leather). Again, not sure if both .1 and .2 were/are affected. I would guess so. Additional info, root cause and repair prognosis, below. Pedro is a PCA member of the Suncoast region, and has a lot of experience repairing these in his garage in FL:
http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site_5/Warped%21.html
The two gas-pressure struts that hold up the rear engine compartment deck lid seem to fail. Heat gets to them, resulting in loss of seal for the gas, and they no longer hold up. Mine ('17 C2) were just replaced under warranty. To check, just lift up the rear deck lid, and wait about a minute. If they have failed, the lid will slowwwwwwwly drop back and then clunk back into the latch.
I would definitely check the A/C system on a 5-7 year old car, actually any car. Refrigerant can leak and may need to be addressed.
Otherwise usual rules apply, look for good consistent routine maintenance, regular check ups, oil changes, etc. etc. in a used car. These cars (.1's and .2's) seem to be in a sweet spot for Porsche; not too old that they have persistent problems, not so much high tech that requires a PhD in Software Engineering to resolve, and build quality and design that ends up with fewer than average trips back to the dealer.
Lastly, and you may know this, but "CPO" doesn't necessarily mean "100% perfect cosmetically". Although Porsche touts CPO as the be all and end all, or likes to give the impression the car is like new, in practice, judging by the reports of folks who have had issues with CPO cars, there seems to be a variety of what's acceptable to "CPO" a car. It is however a very worthwhile warranty to have on an older Porsche, that much is for sure.
If you are buying from a Porsche dealer, and it's a CPO car, you are good for 2 years warranty wise.
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Vinh Nguyen (08-18-2021)
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Check the interior door panels at the top where they follow the curve of the door to meet the glass. They can become delaminated. It's very common with the 991. CPO should take care of it if it happens. Good info here Warped! (pedrosgarage.comh
I guess I did have one issue with mine. Both tail lights fell out at a track day sponsored by the dealer. The salesman who sold me the car was there, so that was pretty funny. They got me new updated light assemblies under warranty. Bore scoring is not common with the 991, but check the tailpipes for excessive, heavy soot build up, especially if one side has significantly more than the other. See when/if the spark plugs and coil packs have been replaced. I changed them on my car at about 52,000 miles. I don't know if they were done before or not, but the difference in performance was substantial after new plugs and coil packs. That's about all I can think of. Mechanically (other than normal wear items), mine has been rock solid over the past 19 months of ownership.
I guess I did have one issue with mine. Both tail lights fell out at a track day sponsored by the dealer. The salesman who sold me the car was there, so that was pretty funny. They got me new updated light assemblies under warranty. Bore scoring is not common with the 991, but check the tailpipes for excessive, heavy soot build up, especially if one side has significantly more than the other. See when/if the spark plugs and coil packs have been replaced. I changed them on my car at about 52,000 miles. I don't know if they were done before or not, but the difference in performance was substantial after new plugs and coil packs. That's about all I can think of. Mechanically (other than normal wear items), mine has been rock solid over the past 19 months of ownership.
Thanks to your tip, I found the driver door panel was delaminating. I never would have looked for it. Thank you.
Otherwise, the car was in good shape cosmetically for a ‘16 and performed as I would expect.
now I have to come the service records and see how it looks.
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Wolpertinger (08-16-2021)
#33
I currently have a 2014 Cayman with about 32k miles. I'm the original owner and fortunate enough that it is the "extra" car in the family. I am considering replacing it with a 2016 911 with about 11.5k miles. Not a "need" but a want.
Any advice or experience that can talk me in or out of this decision?
Thanks
Any advice or experience that can talk me in or out of this decision?
Thanks
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tbm (08-17-2021)
#35
As others have said, and coming from someone who owns both, if you can't have both the 911 will not disappoint. Get it.
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Had a Cayman, loved it, like the 991 more...
Used to be that the cayman had the edge on turn-in and the 911 the edge on putting power down coming out of a turn.
The 991 does both now...
And back seats. And hips. The cayman always had tiny prepubescent hips. And in a garage the Cayman isn't actually much smaller at all.
No downside if you can swing it (with nothing but love for the Cayman).
Used to be that the cayman had the edge on turn-in and the 911 the edge on putting power down coming out of a turn.
The 991 does both now...
And back seats. And hips. The cayman always had tiny prepubescent hips. And in a garage the Cayman isn't actually much smaller at all.
No downside if you can swing it (with nothing but love for the Cayman).
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