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Old May 30, 2021 | 07:48 AM
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I actually owned a 911 in my 20s, then waited until my 60s to get my second. So now I am wondering what I was thinking during my 30s-50s? Marriages, career, travel, families and saving may be overrated.
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Old May 30, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PAPorscheGuy
I actually owned a 911 in my 20s, then waited until my 60s to get my second. So now I am wondering what I was thinking during my 30s-50s? Marriages, career, travel, families and saving may be overrated.
Ditto. But came to this realization at 51 fortunately...
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Old May 30, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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First Porsche. I’m in love.

Just should of gotten one sooner.

you certainly did "get it" with that beauty!. killer color combo. love it! congrats and enjoy
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Old May 30, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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When people ask what do I think?? I tell them they are exactly what they say they are. So glad I made the jump.
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Old May 30, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Congratulations! Great color, and the 991.2 Carrera is one of the very best "standard" 911s.
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Old May 30, 2021 | 03:31 PM
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I'll take more of that Kool Aide....the more I drive this car, the more I love it and appreciate. 2012 to 2016 Carrera and Carrera S....what a marvel of engineering.
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Old May 30, 2021 | 08:22 PM
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Welcome. There really is no substitute. Drive it in the very best of health!
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Old May 30, 2021 | 11:27 PM
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Welcome and congrats. It's never too late, I finally got mine last year after lusting for one since I was a kid. Just turned 56 and some recent health issues in the family made me realize life is short, and I can't afford to wait anymore. Loved driving it and tracked it couple months ago. Big mistake...I have GT3 in my sights now
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Old May 31, 2021 | 12:00 AM
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Congrats! Now get more.
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Old May 31, 2021 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slimmn
Welcome and congrats. It's never too late, I finally got mine last year after lusting for one since I was a kid. Just turned 56 and some recent health issues in the family made me realize life is short, and I can't afford to wait anymore. Loved driving it and tracked it couple months ago. Big mistake...I have GT3 in my sights now
"Big Mistake":.....tell us more. I am especially interested as I am headed to the track in a few weeks with my 991.1 Carrera S.

GT3 in you sights? What model year? I had a 2004 GT3, an analog car for sure. 385 HP and about 3,000 Lbs...but no Track Nanny(s) to save you

A good relatively cheap track car is the 2014 - 2016 Cayman GTS....very speedy, it has a 9A1 3.4 motor, in essence a 991.1 Carrera motors with 10 less HP.
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Old May 31, 2021 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
"Big Mistake":.....tell us more. I am especially interested as I am headed to the track in a few weeks with my 991.1 Carrera S.

GT3 in you sights? What model year? I had a 2004 GT3, an analog car for sure. 385 HP and about 3,000 Lbs...but no Track Nanny(s) to save you

A good relatively cheap track car is the 2014 - 2016 Cayman GTS....very speedy, it has a 9A1 3.4 motor, in essence a 991.1 Carrera motors with 10 less HP.
I'm new to the Porsche world, unlike you. I am a car nut though and do most of my own wrenching. Always wanted to track a car, any car, and I finally got the chance to do Driver Training with 991.1 C2S a few weeks ago. I had a lot of respect for the car (power, legacy, rear weight bias) and always had the fear of the 911 rear end flipping to the front in a turn, so I always felt a little tentative driving this car.

The DT turned out to be a blast - I have never felt such cornering grip on any car (with stock brakes and tires to boot!!), the pure joy of accelerating out of the apex, and the delicate balance between braking, throttle, and steering wheel angle. Late in the day, rain came and the track was fairly empty and I got to activate the track nanny multiple times in the turns...by now I was purposely trying to turn fast into the corners (never would've even thought about this in any car any time in the past). I came away very impressed with the car.

I realize I am still a newb and I can do so much more with this car, but I can't help but think the GT3 would be so much more fun, not to mention sexy looking too...so a pipe dream for now if the prices ever come down to pre-Covid levels. I am interested in the 991.2 version.

By the way, I just watched the movie "Go Karts" on Netflix...decent feel good movie, but there it a part of the show where they talked about the balance between the gas pedal and steering wheel and the string connecting them...just like in the DT lesson, but it really sunk home after the actual track event.

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Old May 31, 2021 | 09:27 AM
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The hook has been set....and that's a good thing. The 991.1 C2S is the best feeling, best performing Porsche I have ever owned. It feels better than my purpose built 993 90% race car, my 2004 GT3 and my previous ride, a 2015 Cayman GTS. (There was a 2020 Mustang GT in the mix but I have scrubbed that memory from my brain...it lasted about 60 days and was sold.) The only track mod I intend to put on my cars is the auxiliary front cooler, about $750 from a typical parts house. Other than that, besides the Pagid RS-29 track pads, the Motul 660 high temp brake fluid and front grill guards to keep the rocks out of the radiators, I intend to leave the car alone. Well at least for a little while

:"By the way, I just watched the movie "Go Karts" on Netflix...decent feel good movie, but there it a part of the show where they talked about the balance between the gas pedal and steering wheel and the string connecting them...just like in the DT lesson, but it really sunk home after the actual track event." I will watch this....the string analogy is a great way to explain "Trail Braking"....we are probably talking about the same thing. See "https://boxthislap.org/trail-braking-the-string-theory/ " This is a great little read.

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but I can't help but think the GT3 would be so much more fun, not to mention sexy looking too." Good luck in the 991.2 GT3 search...they are a little pricy right now....but for those wanting a track package, this is it.

My 2013 991.1 PDF, NO SPORT CHRNO, is my 7th Porsche car, the last 5 have seen track duty. The biggest mistake I have made with these cars, all but the present, is to spend money on track modifications expecting a quantum leap in performance, forgetting that most of the equation is the driver not the car. Put a fast driver in a slow car, that driver will drive that car to it's potential, and then some, they'll be fast. Put a slow driver in a fast car, guaranteed, they'll still be slow.



Lastly, one of the biggest and cheapest mods for driver performance enhancement is buying a Garmin Catalyst GPS based coaching device. It's $999, less than a set of tires....See my enclosed article. tt was fact checked by Garmin for accuracy and passed the test.

Keep the shiny side up!!!
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Old May 31, 2021 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
The hook has been set....and that's a good thing. The 991.1 C2S is the best feeling, best performing Porsche I have ever owned. It feels better than my purpose built 993 90% race car, my 2004 GT3 and my previous ride, a 2015 Cayman GTS. (There was a 2020 Mustang GT in the mix but I have scrubbed that memory from my brain...it lasted about 60 days and was sold.) The only track mod I intend to put on my cars is the auxiliary front cooler, about $750 from a typical parts house. Other than that, besides the Pagid RS-29 track pads, the Motul 660 high temp brake fluid and front grill guards to keep the rocks out of the radiators, I intend to leave the car alone. Well at least for a little while

:"By the way, I just watched the movie "Go Karts" on Netflix...decent feel good movie, but there it a part of the show where they talked about the balance between the gas pedal and steering wheel and the string connecting them...just like in the DT lesson, but it really sunk home after the actual track event." I will watch this....the string analogy is a great way to explain "Trail Braking"....we are probably talking about the same thing. See "https://boxthislap.org/trail-braking-the-string-theory/ " This is a great little read.

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but I can't help but think the GT3 would be so much more fun, not to mention sexy looking too." Good luck in the 991.2 GT3 search...they are a little pricy right now....but for those wanting a track package, this is it.

My 2013 991.1 PDF, NO SPORT CHRNO, is my 7th Porsche car, the last 5 have seen track duty. The biggest mistake I have made with these cars, all but the present, is to spend money on track modifications expecting a quantum leap in performance, forgetting that most of the equation is the driver not the car. Put a fast driver in a slow car, that driver will drive that car to it's potential, and then some, they'll be fast. Put a slow driver in a fast car, guaranteed, they'll still be slow.



Lastly, one of the biggest and cheapest mods for driver performance enhancement is buying a Garmin Catalyst GPS based coaching device. It's $999, less than a set of tires....See my enclosed article. tt was fact checked by Garmin for accuracy and passed the test.

Keep the shiny side up!!!
Thanks for the reading article. I will definitely check it out.

I do agree about the driver...thus I am looking forward to more track time and learning opportunities to wring more out of the S. The GT3 is something to aspire too I guess. Kids tuition are almost paid off and I'm not getting any younger. More importantly, my financial advisor is telling me to go for it.

As for Sports Chrono...I have it but haven't really had the time to find an empty road to try launch control. The Sport + is only useable on the track. I tried it a few times when lapping...it was surreal to see the engine redline even when driving on pit road, and to see it bounce off the redline around the track made me cringe a little, but I guess the car is made to do this. Felt like a new driver who don't know how to shift out of first gear

I'd love to see what you think about the 991.1 S when you track it, in comparison to your other track focused Porsches. I intend to do the same mods you listed...racing brake fluid and pads, plus the Cup 2 tires later. Already got the grill guard from RGS - looks good.
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Old May 31, 2021 | 05:11 PM
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I have only stomped on the gas, an on ramp blast once so far (Only have 400 miles on the car). Have had no time to look and see at what revs the car was shifting at. I was focused on keeping the car focused in the right direction, straight ahead.

My car, lacking Sport Chrono only has two modes, Normal (Very mellow) and Sport (Bad ***), you have three (3) I believe, Normal, Sport and Sport +, at least that's what was on my 2015 Cayman GTS PDK with Sport Chrono...Sport + was track only....too aggressive for the street with Red Line in the first 6 gears.

My 991.1 Sport mode in contrast to the Sport mode I recall on the Cayman GTS seem very similar. With the Cayman I only used Sport + at the track, Damn...it was fun. Sport mode in the 991.1 is more than enough for me...that 60 HP delta to the positive for the 991.1 is duly noted and felt.
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Old May 31, 2021 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
I have only stomped on the gas, an on ramp blast once so far (Only have 400 miles on the car). Have had no time to look and see at what revs the car was shifting at. I was focused on keeping the car focused in the right direction, straight ahead.
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Hope you enjoy your car! I recommend getting instruction at the race track to learn car control in a controlled environment, and the Porsche Experience Center 2+ hr course with time spent on the skid pad, and low friction circle to teach you how to recover if you happen to get into an oversteer situation.
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