How is Fabspeed quality for exhaust and tune?
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So if you did fabspeed catted headers with pse
Would avoid the complicated path right ?
I’m biased, as I ultimately chose Soul, and even had my car displayed at their booth this weekend at Carlisle. I am not sponsored by them, or receive any compensation. PRIOR to my purchase, I noticed that the Fabspeed primary exhaust path routes through the mufflers and the secondary/branch is the valves open straight to the tips. This means that exhaust is always taking a complex route to exit. Both Soul and OEM PSE have primary route straight to the tips(inner) with open valves, and secondary/branch to the mufflers(outer tips).
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X pipe FTW
Edited my original post, don't want to spread disinformation
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Fabspeed Valvetronic Exhaust not operating properlyI have a 991.2 GTS 4 with the following mods. APR Tune ecu and tcu, ipd plenum, AMS Intercooler, EVOM Diverter Valves, APR Throttle Controller. The care has PSE and works under these conditions fine. However, when I added the fabspeed valvetronic exhaust, when in quiet mode the valves do not open at 3500-4000 rpm and this seems to choke the engine. I contacted fabspeed but they didn't reply. I did speak to Joe at Fabspeed through email and he thought it might be a tune issue. But, if the pse operates fine under these conditions why wouldn't the fabspeed? Any help would be appreciated.
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Fabspeed Valvetronic Exhaust not operating properlyI have a 991.2 GTS 4 with the following mods. APR Tune ecu and tcu, ipd plenum, AMS Intercooler, EVOM Diverter Valves, APR Throttle Controller. The care has PSE and works under these conditions fine. However, when I added the fabspeed valvetronic exhaust, when in quiet mode the valves do not open at 3500-4000 rpm and this seems to choke the engine. I contacted fabspeed but they didn't reply. I did speak to Joe at Fabspeed through email and he thought it might be a tune issue. But, if the pse operates fine under these conditions why wouldn't the fabspeed? Any help would be appreciated.
My mods are:
Soul Headers
Soul Sport Cats
Tial Intercoolers
Tial Inlet Tubes
Tial Hoses
Tial Intake Plenum
APR Tune
This is one of the main reasons why Soul was started. CS with Fabspeed was lacking.
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Vacuum valves on an exhaust are a very simple thing. They stay open via spring pressure and vacuum overwhelms that spring pressure to close them. It would make more sense to me that you have a vacuum supply issue going to your valves that controls them open or closed. You might have a vacuum solenoid sticking that constantly supplies vacuum to the valves not allowing them to open. I’d suggest you or a shop does some diagnostics on vacuum control of the valves. The tuners I’ve worked with on the 991.2 platform say the valve control function cannot be changed in the ECU as it’s in a different module compared to the 991.1 gen cars, so I would be very surprised if it was a software problem.
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John, Thanks for your input. The shop did a bench test and the valves are operating fine at the bench. We put the stock pse muffler back on and the valves operate normally. It's only the x pipe withe helical valves that are not operating in quite mode when accelerating.
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I m starting to have some issues with them as of late. They shipped out my new exhaust for a 997 and not a 991 ( like I have). We are going on a bit over a week now with 2 hard dates, and 1 soft date, for shipping out not met, and a bunch of "reasons' for that.
I purchased my exhaust from them for my GT4 a while back and the experience was awesome, this is why I ordered from them for the RS.
Fingers X'D this isn't going to be I wished I had purchased from someone else, experience.
I purchased my exhaust from them for my GT4 a while back and the experience was awesome, this is why I ordered from them for the RS.
Fingers X'D this isn't going to be I wished I had purchased from someone else, experience.
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I've had Fabspeed on my last 3 Porsches. My new to me C4S has NHP headers on it, which come from a "taiwan" (chinese) factory called Liang Fei, but are marketed by Maxspeed motors, which is likely now defunct since their website hasnt worked in awhile.. Which originally approached fabspeed as a "bargain option" that they declined. Yes Soul was created by former Fabspeed employees, we could be here all day regaling the drama and all that. Bottom line is I'm pulling off the liang fei produced headers and going with fabspeed again.
They are marketed on their website as MCK Exhaust. I'd link the NHP header but the website is defunct.
Soul has stated they do a bead blast in house and "QC checks" when I asked them years ago what the difference was. I've heard they are producing the exhausts in house themselves now. The difference in the weld lines may confirm that, or one may just be grinded down, not sure, the geometry is identical. Soul weld lines also match the Topgear headers, which are also Liang Fei produced, but are priced as such.
https://www.liangfei.com.tw/product_...ID=223&Key=731
https://soulpp.com/product/porsche-9...ition-headers/
https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche-991...ers-2012-2016/
https://www.topgear.co.uk/porsche-91...RoCP4cQAvD_BwE
They are marketed on their website as MCK Exhaust. I'd link the NHP header but the website is defunct.
Soul has stated they do a bead blast in house and "QC checks" when I asked them years ago what the difference was. I've heard they are producing the exhausts in house themselves now. The difference in the weld lines may confirm that, or one may just be grinded down, not sure, the geometry is identical. Soul weld lines also match the Topgear headers, which are also Liang Fei produced, but are priced as such.
https://www.liangfei.com.tw/product_...ID=223&Key=731
https://soulpp.com/product/porsche-9...ition-headers/
https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche-991...ers-2012-2016/
https://www.topgear.co.uk/porsche-91...RoCP4cQAvD_BwE
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