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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 06:55 PM
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Read through and can't see if you clarified--is this MT or PDK?
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:24 PM
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Being that I am a Noob... But being that our T's only have 370 hp... and we almost have as much rubber as a GT3, is there really enough power to lose grip?

Edit: Ah, yes. The torque vectoring / mechanical slip differential?

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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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Ive tried sport, sport plus and custom. Ive probably spent an hour sitting in a parking lot trying. Porsche Colorado Springs got back to me a few minutes ago and said it is impossible to disable the PSM. Turning it off will not allow the tires to spin.

New question: I need a turner that can turn this crap off. Anyone know of a shop that can get rid of the safety crap?
Ask Ted from PCoS to show you what can be done.
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:49 PM
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I think in the Carreras they don't allow a full disable. There is ESP and traction control. I believe one stays on at all times, the traction component. Whereas in the GT cars there are two buttons for a full defeat of both systems. The only thing I don't understand is there is a video of Randy skidding a base 991.2 on the track. It appears nothing is on to allow the skids he was doing. Possibly they pulled a fused. I can skid my T a little, but something kicks in and shuts it down after a second. The Carrera owner can't be trusted.
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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Read through and can't see if you clarified--is this MT or PDK?
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOptic
Being that I am a Noob... But being that our T's only have 370 hp... is there really enough power to lose grip?
Yes, the car will easily break thee tires loose if you try. However the torque management will apply the brakes and bring the car to a stop.
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by frenchsquared
Yes, the car will easily break thee tires loose if you try. However the torque management will apply the brakes and bring the car to a stop.
I would really love to see a video of this if you can film this happening?

I can imagine if some traction control is retained even if you turn off traction control, but that would only keep your tires from slipping and try to keep grip on to pavement, I can’t imagine traction control kicking in and bring car to complete stop? That seems odd
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by frenchsquared
My car will not allow the rear tires to spin in anyway. Just dump the clutch from a stand still and your not moving. Just as the tire starts to spin the brakes grab and the car is pulled to stop. Is there some fuse that will stop the ECU from controlling my car. I'm very disappointed in this little detail that kills the car for me. $100,000 sports car that cannot spin the tires or drift or do a donut.

Buy a hellcat!
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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There is unfortunately no fuse, and when I built my 997S (keep in mind this car has over 380K in modifications and it was completely taken apart and took 18 months to complete with only 25% of the original parts still in it), I programmed a second ECU (the programming took months to get right) and the car has no nannies. I would imagine that tuning the ECU in a more modern 991 would be even more complex since there are multiple systems act work to keep the car planted. My guess is most tuners would not want to try and do this In my Targa (which I use as a winter fun car), I can get the rear tires to slide, but it takes a lot.
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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I drifted a T at the Atlanta Performance Center last year on their wet track. It was a manual.
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 02:07 PM
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I have no problem drifting my T in Sport Plus w a long press till the dash says “PSM Off”. I can also spin the tires on a cold day with a full throttle take off and 1-2 shift.

What’s the outside temp when your trying this ama why tires do you have?
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jmann2380
What’s the outside temp when your trying this and why tires do you have?
Why would that mater? I know when the safety system takes over a car. I know when tires hook. I also know when tires are spinning. My tires are not to sticky or to soft. As I said the tires brake loose. Then as Porsche designed the rear brakes are applied. Lights flashing on the dash confirm this for the idiot who cannot feel the brakes. The car is then slowed to a stop and will bog down and die if you don't press the clutch. Factory tires, it was about 45 out. Cold black top road with loose gravel. Tires spun very easily. A bug could spin the tires in that situation. The trick might be to start from a roll as was suggested in this post. I have not tried this. Porsche dealer says that will not work.

I have already talked to Porsche. You cannot spin the tires from a stop on a T and it is almost impossible to drift one. If someone is able to spin the tires on there T then that T is the one working incorrectly or modified. Anyone who disagrees please take it up with Porsche as they designed the car not me.

Thanks for trying to those who actually tried to helped. I see another reason the older ones are going up in value. My next one will most likely be from the air cooled era.

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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 737gdog
Buy a hellcat!
You buy an over weight pig.

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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 02:56 PM
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frenchsquared? Why so angry?

Sounds like you know it all; why did you make this thread?

Signed,
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jmann2380
frenchsquared? Why so angry?
why did you make this thread?
Not angry... but I don't chat nicely with idiots who imply I need a hellcat, cannot read and cannot drive. I have as much right to ******* comments as they do.
I got the answers in this thread and Porsche called me back after this thread was started.
Very simple answer... You cannot turn the traction control off on a 991.2 Carrara T. Yes, the dash will say it is off however it is not truly off as it is in a Corvette or Hellcat. It is only reduced.
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