2018 GTS prices good or bad?
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You will want the PCCBs on the car, trust me.
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To be honest I’m all to familiar with them. Have them on my Z06. There is non red on a a part time driver/random track day car. They are over kill and the cost just doesn’t justify using steel. If it was a regular track day car I would agree. Get them hot on the street and your teeth are going through the windscreen.
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Imo that chalk one must look amazing with the color combo! If you are planning to resell eventually then the blue is the one. If you are going to drive it and mod it and plan to keep for a while, then I would go for the chalk. Chances are, someone will buy one shortly if you do not and make your choice easier.
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To be honest I’m all to familiar with them. Have them on my Z06. There is non red on a a part time driver/random track day car. They are over kill and the cost just doesn’t justify using steel. If it was a regular track day car I would agree. Get them hot on the street and your teeth are going through the windscreen.
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You're probably referring to PDCC, all 911s come standard with PASM now since the .2 was introduced. PDCC includes Sports PASM (e.g., SPASM), which is a big deal by itself, as is rear axle steering. Some consider these essential options; I can tell you from experience I wouldn't buy one without both SPASM and RAS (which is what kept me away from a T...). As you say the blue one has both. Most reviewers don't find PDCC a mandatory check box for these cars but when you buy used you're getting it at a severe discount so consider it a bonus. Which brings me to my next point-
I think in most cases you're absolutely correct; and if buying new, unless significant track time is anticipated, the cost just isn't justified over the steel. But just like with PDCC, somebody else ate the majority of that cost already. Consider it a huge bonus, and you'll likely never have to do the brakes for the duration you have the car.
One area where I will suggest avoiding ceramic brakes is on higher mileage cars you plan to keep for a long time. They do last a long time, but "lifetime" is not accurate. They will need to be done eventually, and they are incredibly expensive when they do need attention. I was actually considering a 2013 RS5 as a daily a while ago because I love that engine and how it looks- but it had about 65k miles and ceramic brakes. Within 15k miles or so I would have needed to drop another $10k on the car... no thanks.
But if it isn't getting driven that much, as I said- the ceramic brakes are a huge bonus.
The actual stopping power and feel of the ceramic and the steel should be inconsequential. I haven't driven the ceramics extensively but I can tell you that you get used to what you have. I drove one at a track (low speed, more of an autocross really) with them and they felt great; no discernible difference over the steel in my car.
To be honest I’m all to familiar with them. Have them on my Z06. There is non red on a a part time driver/random track day car. They are over kill and the cost just doesn’t justify using steel. If it was a regular track day car I would agree. Get them hot on the street and your teeth are going through the windscreen.
One area where I will suggest avoiding ceramic brakes is on higher mileage cars you plan to keep for a long time. They do last a long time, but "lifetime" is not accurate. They will need to be done eventually, and they are incredibly expensive when they do need attention. I was actually considering a 2013 RS5 as a daily a while ago because I love that engine and how it looks- but it had about 65k miles and ceramic brakes. Within 15k miles or so I would have needed to drop another $10k on the car... no thanks.
But if it isn't getting driven that much, as I said- the ceramic brakes are a huge bonus.
The actual stopping power and feel of the ceramic and the steel should be inconsequential. I haven't driven the ceramics extensively but I can tell you that you get used to what you have. I drove one at a track (low speed, more of an autocross really) with them and they felt great; no discernible difference over the steel in my car.
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One way to evaluate relative prices/values on these cars, given the plethora of options and wide ranges of MSRPs, is to look at the asking price as a percentage of MSRP. And then of course you're going to want to be able to add in the variable of mileage, which isn't too hard to do.
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thanks!
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One has 14 ways and the other has 18 ways. So there can be one correct answer.
Sapphire is so rare on a 18 you might as well treat it as a PTS.
128 is very high for a '18 thats 'mid' optioned. If you can live with standard interior, then go for it. After having my ridiculous 168k optioned GTS for 6 weeks, I can say the PCCBs are one of my favorite things. But then again so is the GTS package.
Sapphire is so rare on a 18 you might as well treat it as a PTS.
128 is very high for a '18 thats 'mid' optioned. If you can live with standard interior, then go for it. After having my ridiculous 168k optioned GTS for 6 weeks, I can say the PCCBs are one of my favorite things. But then again so is the GTS package.
