This was cross posted on the 992 board but I want to get the "other sides" perspective

Looking at a 911.
While I love the rawness of the earlier generations I am looking for something a lot more modern
omewhat price sensitive
Options for me: I have narrowed it down to:

1. 2017 - 2018 CPO C2 with Sports Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay around 84K. I like that it is the cheapest options of my choices and is still a modern machine
2. 2017 -2018 CPO C2S with sportt Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay mid 90's.
3. 2020/2021 New C2 with sport Chrono and PSE with a 4-5% discount expect to pay Around 105

Like that the 2020 is new and will have a full 4 year warranty and will have the same power as the 991.2 C2S but between 1 and 3 there is a 20K difference. Is it worth it?
I enjoy a car that I have to work at the power a little but allso prefer new and a longer warranty. Insist on CPO

Thanks

Craig Jon

 

Have you driven 991.2 and 992? You don’t have a strong opinion on either? If no, then don’t buy.

 

I have and yes I had a strong opinion on both. I loved them both.
Not sure I understand your advice not to buy because I happened to enjoy them both,

 

New 992 C2 will NOT have the same power as a 991,2 C2S. It will have approximately 35 hp less power.

 

991.2 is heads
992 is tails

flip a coin

Now, be honest, are you happy with the result? Buy that one,

Disappointed? Buy the other.

You’re welcome.

 

If you like or love them both and cost (and depreciation) is not an issue, get the 992.

 

I reckoned my reasoning could be summed up as juvenile. I compared a .2 GTS with a C2S & C4S 992. The .2 was nearly new with 1550 miles. It also had no sunroof which was important, but not a deal breaker. I test drove them all. What pushed me over the edge for the .2 was the ability to shift the car in manual mode with the gear selector. I know the paddles are more in vogue, but I find myself using the gear selector often. The gear shifter on the 992 looks more like a beard trimmer to me. Now, eventually I’ll warm up to the 992 and I’m certain if it were in my garage all would be fine. But I picked the .2 GTS mostly because of the shifter. I told you, it was juvenile. First world problems I reckon.

 

If you have the money, my suggestion is to buy a new 911 which means the 992. If you are lookin for a manual, you have to step to the S models in the 992. I like my manual 991.2 4S very much and I bought it new. Less headaches with a new car. Just my opinion.

 

In 2018 I decided I wanted a 911 and drove several 991.2 cars, Cabs & Targas, and the Targa was my favorite; however, I wanted to wait until I saw the 992 before making the ultimate decision. The 991.2 is modern and fast enough for me but most importantly I like the way it looks better than the 992, which is why I am driving (and loving) my 991.2 Targa GTS. They are different enough that you should be able to make a decision all by yourself.

 

I have owned 45 Porsche's and have spent almost 50 years owning at least one. Each new generation has taken me time to adjust to, but I am having the hardest time with the 992. Perhaps it is because the car no longer feels like a sports car to me, but I have owned close to 500 cars and built many one of a kind cars (one started out as a 997S now it weighs 2112lbs with over 650hp and no nannies at all), soon I will start work on a 4C spider that will have just about 500hp. My point is that each person's opinion is based on their individual experiences with cars and how well they can handle a car. I believe you cannot know the measure of a car by driving it with traction controls or on a highway, but then again that is just my opinion. I think you should buy the car that you enjoy the most, not the one I would since it would probably not be any of the ones you mentioned, unless I was planning to take it apart. Good luck.

 

Thanks all for your input. I absolutely agree that the car I buy is the one that speaks to me the most. The problem I am having right now is that Covid makes the process a lot harder. Arranging test drives is definitely harder and more complicated. As my SA told me, in the old days they would jump into the car with even a tire kicker as even on the remote chance they would buy the car it was worth it. Now days not so much. I also respect new cars and so when I take a test drive on a car with 15 miles I am not going to rev above 4K and furthermore most cars only come alive after 10K miles. And so I come online seeking others opinions and although no one can tell me what to do, hearing ones journey does help to organize my thoughts.

In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.

A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.

Thanks

 

Good for you, but imagine you're an outlier in that regard. I assume any demo model has been driven above recommended revs during "break in". Individual buyer tolerance for that varies widely, it's a factor for me, along with other "wear and tear".

You really can't go wrong with either choice. Any 911 is better than none!

 

From what you’ve posted, sounds like you’d be happier with a new 992.

 

I would say the only potential downside to the 992 is the larger size, namely the wide body rear. But if that's not an issue, go for it.

 

I own a 991.2 C4S and have driven a number of new 992 Carrera S over a period of 3 track days.

Strictly personal preferences follow.

I prefer the "old time" dash of the older models, don't care for all the shiny black and the aesthetics of the 992 gear selector leaves me cold.

As far the exterior styling, after a few days, quite certain I could live with 992 body.

The new 8 speed PDK is great and has no replacement on track, however, my choice is a manual which my car has.

As to the engine, the 992 S is as fast as you will need any road car to be. Didn't do any launch control starts but if you go WOT from stop, the tires will initially spin, the rear steps out a bit and off you go, fast.

TBH, a base 992 C2 engine isn't going to be that much slower and should have more than ample grunt with the new 8 speed PDK. You won't be disappointed.

What you have to watch out is lusting after big power, that's how car makers get you, selling you more than you need for a higher profit from their end.

Have fun with the process and good luck.