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02-03-2020, 09:53 AM
#3
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I don't get the all wheel drive 911 thing. Based on the limitations of clearance, you're basically talking about the ability to drive in a couple inches of snow, which you can do in a rear drive 911 with ease. I drive all my rear drive cars during Northeast winters.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
02-03-2020, 10:03 AM
#4
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Wholly agree - the fun factor of a RWD 911 is unmatchable!
I don't get the all wheel drive 911 thing. Based on the limitations of clearance, you're basically talking about the ability to drive in a couple inches of snow, which you can do in a rear drive 911 with ease. I drive all my rear drive cars during Northeast winters.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
02-03-2020, 10:19 AM
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I wanted a Targa, which only come in AWD so I did not have a choice! But I do like the feeling when driving aggressively, especially with RAS.
02-03-2020, 11:40 AM
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02-03-2020, 01:07 PM
#7
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I almost went with a 5. I'm into weight transfer, settling the rear through maintenance throttle, tucking into the line with throttle lift, trail braking, managing understeer to enter a turn and managing over steer mid turn. All that goes out the window when the front wheels drive. But if you straight line drivers like the launch, all power to ya.
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02-03-2020, 01:30 PM
#8
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I almost went with a 5. I'm into weight transfer, settling the rear through maintenance throttle, tucking into the line with throttle lift, trail braking, managing understeer to enter a turn and managing over steer mid turn. All that goes out the window when the front wheels drive. But if you straight line drivers like the launch, all power to ya.
02-04-2020, 01:13 AM
#9
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Come experience life in the Pacific Northwest, the constant rainfall and downtown traffic make AWD an emotional requirement. Y’all can keep your fancy weight transfer , I wanna get across the intersection before that Prius does. 🙂
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02-04-2020, 10:26 PM
#10
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I don't get the all wheel drive 911 thing. Based on the limitations of clearance, you're basically talking about the ability to drive in a couple inches of snow, which you can do in a rear drive 911 with ease. I drive all my rear drive cars during Northeast winters.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
The all wheel drive guys talk about slides, launches, dynamics in snow. Precisely the same behavior rear drive 911 drivers chase on dry ground. Essentially swapping classic 911 experiences and car control typically sought in warm months, for experiencing those things in lower traction lower threshold conditions, which I guess makes sense if you have limited ability. But it's a trade off indeed because the front driven cars simply don't handle or steer the same in dry. It takes a 10 on the fun scale and drops it to an Audi 6.
I live on a steep long driveway which when snowy can send rear drive cars sliding backward hundreds of feet. Even considering that I would never want a 4 911. To each their own I guess.
I do realize that AWD helps mostly in getting going in snow, maybe a little bit in turning, and not at all in braking.
02-04-2020, 10:46 PM
#11
I almost went with a 5. I'm into weight transfer, settling the rear through maintenance throttle, tucking into the line with throttle lift, trail braking, managing understeer to enter a turn and managing over steer mid turn. All that goes out the window when the front wheels drive. But if you straight line drivers like the launch, all power to ya.
Sounds awesome! You should post some video!
I’m sure most owners won’t get anywhere near the limits of the 991 (at least on public roads). I usually save it for the track, but that’s in my 981. On public roads I love the AWD, no real compromises and lots more stability in low traction environments.
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02-05-2020, 07:59 PM
#13
Lol. Don't make fun of me...I meant in a mixed use track sometimes sense.
I do have some noobish yellow run group lime rock clips, in .1 GT3's though.
https://youtu.be/AVg57JVC6Tc
I do have some noobish yellow run group lime rock clips, in .1 GT3's though.
https://youtu.be/AVg57JVC6Tc
