High Mileage Car Purchase
#1
High Mileage Car Purchase
So Im new to the Porsche vehicles. I have done some research and decided to buy a 991. Im at the extreme upper edge of my purchase budget, even in the early 2013's. There are a couple of cars out there approaching the 100K mark. These are obviuosely less expensive and some are more optioned. In other words, except for the miles, I would be getting much more for my money. My plan is to just keep the car as a weekend driver, garage queen. I cant say how long I will keep it, not really looking to buy and sell. I know there are maintenance issues and upkeep. The vehicles I'm looking at are Clean Car Fax vehicles and look great.
What say the more experienced crowd on here
What say the more experienced crowd on here
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por944trs (12-29-2019)
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So Im new to the Porsche vehicles. I have done some research and decided to buy a 991. Im at the extreme upper edge of my purchase budget, even in the early 2013's. There are a couple of cars out there approaching the 100K mark. These are obviuosely less expensive and some are more optioned. In other words, except for the miles, I would be getting much more for my money. My plan is to just keep the car as a weekend driver, garage queen. I cant say how long I will keep it, not really looking to buy and sell. I know there are maintenance issues and upkeep. The vehicles I'm looking at are Clean Car Fax vehicles and look great.
What say the more experienced crowd on here
What say the more experienced crowd on here
Cars with the fewest owners allow you to interview current owner and understand how it was treated over the largest miles consumed; buy the owner as much as the car. You can tell right away if someone took care of the car based on asking the right questions, personality, their knowledge of the car, etc. Was this a special car to them or just another status symbol? Do they have maintenance records with work done at reputable shops? Wouldn’t say my car’s previous owner loved it like I did but after assessing his personality and doing some dealership research to find out last service intervals etc I was able to prove he hardly drove the car so I believed him when he told me it sat in his garage most of the time and never got wrung out too much.
My own personal observation from reading these forums are the only issues on these cars are really changeover valves (simple to fix) and possible bore score (depending on who you ask!). Some say running Motul or Liqui moly quality oils are better for the car. Do with that what you will. There are probably other smaller things here and there but nothing that scares the bejesus out of me like IMS or rod bearing issues like 996’s, 997.1’s or BMW E46/E90 M3’s. Between my S54 Z4M and my 991 I have less anxiety about maintenance issues on the 991.
Personally my gut feeling on these cars based on anecdotal forum reading vs other car forums and my limited 6 month, 12,000 mike experience is that they are well built. I couldn’t find a high mileage car that saved me enough money vs a low mileage one to make it worth it for me (which made me feel even better about the purchase depreciation wise) but you may be luckier or have a different cost benefit threshold than I. I’m also not opposed to rebuilding/stroking the engine down the road at flat 6 motors if need be to address issues and pull more power out of it because I think the chassis and interior are one of a kind and it’d be cheaper than buying a new car.
Lastly there was a 991 turbo with 230,xxx miles posted on this forum. Of course it doesn’t say what money the owner had to put in to keep it going but suffice to say it tells me these cars have a lot of life in them.
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Macduc (12-28-2019)
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I'm curious to know also especially as far as how the suspension and steering tightness are on the higher mileage cars. Most cars I've owned in the past are fine as far as powertrain but it's the steering/suspension part that seems to fade with miles
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OMTarga4S (12-29-2019)
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you know, I never even gave that a thought. Thanks for bringing that up
#5
Race Car
I have owned 4 higher mileage (>65000) Porsches, and one 45,000 mile one. The first was a 993. I bought it at 100,000 miles and sold it at 180,000.... Doubled my money by hitting the timing right. Yes, I did suspension and motor mounts, as well as various little things throughout the years I had it. However, it never left me stranded anywhere. I’ve had two 997 C4S. One had 70,000, one had 82,000 at purchase. Both were dead reliable. I think I changed the motor mounts on the higher mileage one. I have a Cayenne Diesel that just rolled over 97,000 miles. I’ve only ever done the suggested maintenance and it drives like new. I have a 45,000 mile 996 that we turned into a track car. Before the conversion it wasn’t any better than any of the higher mileage cars I’ve owned. Lastly, I just purchased a 77,000 mile 991.1 C2S. So I guess my feelings on miles are pretty clear. The relatively small things you will want to replace to keep it feeling like a Porsche will be offset by the $ saved at purchase. If you don’t drive it a lot, in a few years it will be an average mile car on the market when you go to sell.
my .02...
my .02...
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tripleJS (12-28-2019)
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tranny
A high mileage pdk would scare me with the known replacements, a MT would not. Also, get a full PPI with paint meter readings and an overrev report by someone other than the seller. I agree with the above poster for this vehicle I would try for a 1 owner car for sale by owner. The S on the .1 is a great value point. If you could find one with a powerkit even better.
#7
Rennlist Member
For your 1st Porsche I would look for a CPO car so you can rack up some worry free miles.
When you find a few to choose from post up the link or some details ...... would love to see what's out there and the pricing.
I'm currently at 109K miles on a 13 C4S.
When you find a few to choose from post up the link or some details ...... would love to see what's out there and the pricing.
I'm currently at 109K miles on a 13 C4S.