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Old 11-07-2019, 09:47 AM
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I also had the same experience as the OP. I drove a Manual T and a Carrera PDK (and manual GT4) back to back. All drove great and had great performance.

Then a few months later I drove a Carrera Base and felt something was lacking. I was thinking may it felt like it had less performance but now perhaps the shifter was the difference.
Old 11-07-2019, 10:03 AM
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I've had my T for almost a year now and just recently changed to the Numeric shifter.

The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.

The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.

Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.

Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.

100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.

Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:


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Old 04-17-2024, 08:35 AM
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So to guys who did the retrofit

is the gt4 selector 98142401020 working with 7th gear for 991.2 cs?

Porsche service for carrera T and carrera s shows same selector 991-424-010-01 but you can see on the pictures that for t it looks shorter than for c2s
Old 04-17-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ajskydiver
I've had my T for almost a year now and just recently changed to the Numeric shifter.

The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.

The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.

Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.

Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.

100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.

Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:


your shifter was much shorter than 7g from c2s. Maybe you have pic with part number
Old 04-17-2024, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pczuj
your shifter was much shorter than 7g from c2s. Maybe you have pic with part number
The T has a factory short shifter, same as GT4. It is not the same shifter as the C2S.
Old 04-17-2024, 11:24 AM
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5 hours to install the shifter only is crazy, I installed the Numeric shifter and cables in 5 hours. There are a few decent videos out there on the center console breakdown necessary for the shifter swap. My wife drives a 2016 Spyder with the factory short shifter, the feel was night and day to the feel of the factory 911 GTS shifter which convinced me to upgrade. The Numeric unit is a complete level beyond the factory short shifter in mechanical feel, I wanted that and am very pleased but others may not like the mechanical feel and level of input necessary to make the shifts, I did go with the heavier springs which keeps the shifter shaft tight with zero movement.
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So maybe you know the part number for carrera T and does it have 7 gears (gt4 is 6 I believe)

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Originally Posted by pczuj
So maybe you know the part number for carrera T and does it have 7 gears (gt4 is 6 I believe)
I don’t have the part number. The shifter works the same regardless of the number of
gears in the transmission. The shifter just pulls/pushes on cables connected to the transmission.
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My idea is to order from Porsche the shorter gear shift from carrera T but they insist part number is the same for both



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