Carrera T short throw shifter
#31
I also had the same experience as the OP. I drove a Manual T and a Carrera PDK (and manual GT4) back to back. All drove great and had great performance.
Then a few months later I drove a Carrera Base and felt something was lacking. I was thinking may it felt like it had less performance but now perhaps the shifter was the difference.
Then a few months later I drove a Carrera Base and felt something was lacking. I was thinking may it felt like it had less performance but now perhaps the shifter was the difference.
#32
I've had my T for almost a year now and just recently changed to the Numeric shifter.
The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.
The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.
Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.
Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.
100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.
Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:
The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.
The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.
Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.
Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.
100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.
Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:
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egrossman (07-06-2020)
#33
Gt 4 gear selector in 7th gear
So to guys who did the retrofit
is the gt4 selector 98142401020 working with 7th gear for 991.2 cs?
Porsche service for carrera T and carrera s shows same selector 991-424-010-01 but you can see on the pictures that for t it looks shorter than for c2s
is the gt4 selector 98142401020 working with 7th gear for 991.2 cs?
Porsche service for carrera T and carrera s shows same selector 991-424-010-01 but you can see on the pictures that for t it looks shorter than for c2s
#34
part number?
I've had my T for almost a year now and just recently changed to the Numeric shifter.
The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.
The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.
Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.
Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.
100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.
Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:
The OEM short shifter now has the larger 2mm spring, so it's much stiffer than previous years. It's really good. To echo comments above, also having owned an S2000 for 8 years, it's an 8 - the S2000 was a 10.
The Numeric is substantially better and improves the feel as much as possible - makes the shift feel a 9.5. The only thing keeping it from a 10 is the narrow gates. The Numeric is very mechanical feeling and deliberate. I initially ordered the 1.5mm spring and it was much less stiff than the OEM T shifter. Fortunately, I live close enough that I was able to drive over and swap it out for the 2mm stiffer spring that is just a bit more than the OEM.
Swapping it out is very easy and straightforward. Taking my time and being very careful, it took me 1.5 hours in a sweltering garage. I could do it in half the time now or faster.
Once installed, the actual shift height might be a millimeter or two higher than stock...might just be me.
100% absolutely would do this again. Still considering the cables, might be overkill for a street car.
Here's some side by side pictures - the stock is mostly plastic but gets the job done:
#36
5 hours to install the shifter only is crazy, I installed the Numeric shifter and cables in 5 hours. There are a few decent videos out there on the center console breakdown necessary for the shifter swap. My wife drives a 2016 Spyder with the factory short shifter, the feel was night and day to the feel of the factory 911 GTS shifter which convinced me to upgrade. The Numeric unit is a complete level beyond the factory short shifter in mechanical feel, I wanted that and am very pleased but others may not like the mechanical feel and level of input necessary to make the shifts, I did go with the heavier springs which keeps the shifter shaft tight with zero movement.