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Old 01-24-2019, 09:32 PM
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Default AMG GTS vs 991.2 C2S. What to get used?

My friend is looking for a used car. Looking for around <5k mileage car and seems like he boiled the choices down to AMG GTS or 991.2 C2S.

He is looking for pretty good driving enjoyment + automatic gearbox + most importantly having fun 1-2 years and selling the car without too much hit on depreciation.

What would you guys get?

AMG GTS? - 2017 model pre facelift. AMG GT still has another 3 years of model cycle so probably won't feel outdated in a year or two. Problem is that it is AMG. Not the regular joe AMG like C63 AMG which depreciates like a rock falling from sky but still. AMG is AMG.

991.2 C2S - Great car and P-Car always does well in terms of depreciation. However, 992 is coming out and I just don't know how 991 value will fare once 992 used cars hit the market (probably in a year or two)

What's RLer's thoughts?

I think both cars are similar in terms of driving capability. Of course different characters but RR Flat-6 and FMR V8 are both attractive options.

Main question is which car is more "let's add another 10k mile to it as a weekend driver and not lose an arm and a leg when trading it back to a dealer"?
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Porsche > MB. But this forum is biased
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Porsche > MB. But this forum is biased
Oh yeah P Car > MB all the way. I wouldn't even open a thread like this has 992 not been on the horizon.
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I think the AMG will hold it’s value better than a 991.2 Cs for the next 1-2 years. Me personally, I’m a Porsche guy and my choice will always be a Porsche.
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I've driven both. Totally different feeling cars. The AMG is brutally fast but the Porsche is way more connected to the road. As a daily driver the 911 is light years ahead.
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The AMG GTS will probably already be cheaper than the Porsche, are they under $100k yet? My friend picked up an absolutely mint one last year or the year before for right over $100k, so they've depreciated quite a bit. I took a ride in it, and it is really fast. Especially with a tune. Interior looks really nice and feels more special than the Porsche. However, the ride quality may have been the worst I've ever experienced, and I am not at all sensitive to stiff rides. This was just on a whole different level, though. I was shocked at how uncomfortable it was. It also looks kinda phallic, so there's that to deal with. A wing in the back helps balance things out.

Personally I'd get the 911 every time over the GTS. The GTR looks like an interesting proposition, and looks better proportioned and more aggressive, but it's also a lot more expensive.
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For the purpose of resale value in 1-2 years, I could see the AMG holding better value.
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Originally Posted by NJ991
For the purpose of resale value in 1-2 years, I could see the AMG holding better value.
Do you think so? AMG surely has more special feel to it. I mind its phallic design but in the end, FMR layout is interesting.
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Originally Posted by Ascend


Do you think so? AMG surely has more special feel to it. I mind its phallic design but in the end, FMR layout is interesting.
I agree about the design. I thought I was the only one.
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Originally Posted by NJ991

I agree about the design. I thought I was the only one.
GT interior feels almost exotic but for some reason their GT roadsters do not sell well .
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Originally Posted by casaforte9


GT interior feels almost exotic but for some reason their GT roadsters do not sell well .
the recent MB vehicles have some of the best interiors right now. I’ve not seen a few GT coupes, I have never seen a roadster. I thought these cars were low production vehicles, therefore holding a better resale value. Maybe I’m wrong, just me thinking out loud.
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991.1 gts might hold its value better and be cheaper then both cars mentioned if that is the main concern...
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I have a feeling all of the 991.1 modes will hold their value after a couple of years, and possibly rise with demand for them down the road. The last of the NA engines. I’m extremely lucky and happy that I was able to find the exact one I was looking for.
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How about getting a 991.1 NA 4s or S and that may depreciate more slowly and NA seems to have buyers looking for that motor
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Originally Posted by NJ991

the recent MB vehicles have some of the best interiors right now. I’ve not seen a few GT coupes, I have never seen a roadster. I thought these cars were low production vehicles, therefore holding a better resale value. Maybe I’m wrong, just me thinking out loud.
I thought my AMG had a great interior, and then I bought a Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid ST. This interior is a notch below what Bentley delivers, and a small notch at that. I’m really impressed by how much Porsche has stepped up their luxury interior game.

Back to the OP. The AMG cars are falling like a rock, 2017 GT S cars are selling for low $90’s right now, well off the $132k MSRP they sold originally for. You can get a 2018 roadster for $100k. Don’t fool yourself, AMG cars depreciate severely. Throwing shade on the mainline AMG models is misplaced, the C and E class AMG models are not badged versions, they are legitimate AMG offerings. You are correct, AMG is AMG... they all fall like a rock. I’m painfully aware of this, my E63S wagon is one of just 125 examples that entered the US in 2016 (the last of the W212 generation) and I cry like girl when look up what the market is on this car right now.

Having said that, if it were between a C2S and a AMG GT (even the S, but I’d spend up for the R), I’d go with the AMG. Only Ferrari is making a better V8 right now and that’s because they artificially limit the low-end torque to give it more in the mid-range, to mimic the feeling you get in a NA car. I don’t much care for the whop-whop-whop sound of the flat-plane crankshaft in the 3.9 liter Ferrari motor, so on sound AMG wins by a wide margin, and it is a dry sump. You have to go up to a GT3 to get dry sump in a 991. The MCT Speedshift is a really cool transmission but the PDK is still better. Everything in the mechanicals says the MCT should be better but the PDK just feels more adaptive and responsive to changes in how you are driving. The front-mid engine placement is a winner (Carroll Shelby grins, the secret to the Cobra was the front-mid placement and even with a massive 427 side oiler, those cars handled really well) and while the rear engine in the 991 has advantages for launch, I think it’s a toss-up for overall vehicle dynamics. I don’t know if they offered rear-axle steering on the pre-2018 models, but the steering in general is equivalent to the 991 (disclosure, I’m a big fan of the electric steering in my 991.2).

The AMG is much cooler looking and makes much more of a visual statement.

A word of caution about the matte finishes that are popular on those models. They are a major PITA to maintain and if you need to bodywork done you will be cursing Stuttgart.


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