Heading out tomorrow morning for a CT scan...
#31
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ha ha, that’s no stripper T. Nice spec tho. I think I’ve seen that somewhere before? SS? But, LWBS for the win.
#32
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Zeus, just looked at your build. First you picked the best color for the T, ask my how I know :-). And it’s the lightest weight color with no pigment!
Love the spec but I was thinking mine was built too high at $124k. Be careful about over building the car as you may get hurt at the time of resale as you’re now in high end Carrera S and low end GTS price range.
Personally I don’t see the need for the brake upgrade. The Carrera brakes on my T are amazing on the street and could easily handle a light track workout. Same brakes that Porsche now puts on the Cayman GTS. Now, if your planning to really track the car hard then go for the PCCB’s. I also like the monochromatic look of the grey wheels, grey brake calipers and the grey mirrors. Makes the T look amazing!
Good luck and push for a strong discount.
Love the spec but I was thinking mine was built too high at $124k. Be careful about over building the car as you may get hurt at the time of resale as you’re now in high end Carrera S and low end GTS price range.
Personally I don’t see the need for the brake upgrade. The Carrera brakes on my T are amazing on the street and could easily handle a light track workout. Same brakes that Porsche now puts on the Cayman GTS. Now, if your planning to really track the car hard then go for the PCCB’s. I also like the monochromatic look of the grey wheels, grey brake calipers and the grey mirrors. Makes the T look amazing!
Good luck and push for a strong discount.
#33
Personally I don’t see the need for the brake upgrade. The Carrera brakes on my T are amazing on the street and could easily handle a light track workout. Same brakes that Porsche now puts on the Cayman GTS. Now, if your planning to really track the car hard then go for the PCCB’s. I also like the monochromatic look of the grey wheels, grey brake calipers and the grey mirrors. Makes the T look amazing!
As an aside, the huge speed-yellow PCCB calipers are mouth-watering to look at.
#34
Burning Brakes
I'm your huckleberry...
I built and drive a similar car, with a couple exceptions. Looks great! If it we're me...
Forget the Bose. Just some extra weight, and the base setup is fine. There when you need it, off when you don't.
Keep the PCCBs. If you are planning to heavily track the car, you're buying the wrong one. Otherwise, as said, these are lifetime brakes and will blow you away. Yes, the 9k sucks to fork out, but when you do, they will improve your driving and confidence. They are that good on these lighter cars. Ton of for and against arguments, honestly the cars are so well engineered, the extra 40 lbs of unsprung weight and inertia doesn't seem like a lot, but it's there (or not there, with PCCB) and makes an impact. You can't defy physics, but spec'd right, these cars make you feel like you can
Keep the Sport wheels. Because they make your car look different than mine, and I don't want to share! Seriously, they look great. Especially with the yellow calipers.
Keep the PDLS and black Bi-Xes. The standard lights are a different silver, and it is yet another color on the car, different than the Agate and Titanium. Plenty of black on it already, and it's a win-win. The LEDs would be nice but you're already up in Cyberbug territory on price as it is!
Keep the RAS. In fact, if I could only keep one option on my car, it would be that. Everything else are just levels of improvement. RAS, coupled with the mLSD and PTV, is it's own thing. Either you get it, or you don't.
Good luck in your hunt!
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I built and drive a similar car, with a couple exceptions. Looks great! If it we're me...
Forget the Bose. Just some extra weight, and the base setup is fine. There when you need it, off when you don't.
Keep the PCCBs. If you are planning to heavily track the car, you're buying the wrong one. Otherwise, as said, these are lifetime brakes and will blow you away. Yes, the 9k sucks to fork out, but when you do, they will improve your driving and confidence. They are that good on these lighter cars. Ton of for and against arguments, honestly the cars are so well engineered, the extra 40 lbs of unsprung weight and inertia doesn't seem like a lot, but it's there (or not there, with PCCB) and makes an impact. You can't defy physics, but spec'd right, these cars make you feel like you can
Keep the Sport wheels. Because they make your car look different than mine, and I don't want to share! Seriously, they look great. Especially with the yellow calipers.
Keep the PDLS and black Bi-Xes. The standard lights are a different silver, and it is yet another color on the car, different than the Agate and Titanium. Plenty of black on it already, and it's a win-win. The LEDs would be nice but you're already up in Cyberbug territory on price as it is!
Keep the RAS. In fact, if I could only keep one option on my car, it would be that. Everything else are just levels of improvement. RAS, coupled with the mLSD and PTV, is it's own thing. Either you get it, or you don't.
Good luck in your hunt!
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#35
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Thread Starter
Thanks guys. Latest build - nixed the BOSE and the White instrument dials. The interior looks calmer, simpler now to me. Kept the Porsche Entry & Drive but am debating it. Do I really need that? What's the big deal of pushing a button, opening the door, and inserting the key into the ignition. So it seems like a $1250 gimick.http://www.porsche-code.com/PKUB9X10
#36
Thanks guys. Latest build - nixed the BOSE and the White instrument dials. The interior looks calmer, simpler now to me. Kept the Porsche Entry & Drive but am debating it. Do I really need that? What's the big deal of pushing a button, opening the door, and inserting the key into the ignition. So it seems like a $1250 gimick.http://www.porsche-code.com/PKUB9X10
#37
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Personally I am a fan of the dials in white. However you do loose the Carrera T lettering on the Tach. They look great on a white exterior Carrera.
Agree on the entry and drive as i as I do like the analog experience of inserting the key to start the car (keeping in mind you can remove the dummy key) but what sold me was being able to simply hover my hand close to the front trunk to open the lid without reaching for the keys.
Agree on the entry and drive as i as I do like the analog experience of inserting the key to start the car (keeping in mind you can remove the dummy key) but what sold me was being able to simply hover my hand close to the front trunk to open the lid without reaching for the keys.
#38
Burning Brakes
There are several white Ts available Nationwide and there appears to be one in Atlanta that's a Manual, with PCCBs, and LWBs. I'm happy to go look at it for you if you'd like this weekend, if it's available. Maybe your local dealer could transfer it.
As for Entry and Drive, I have it in the Macan. It has advantages, but I prefer to skip it in the cars. Neither the GT4 not the 718 have it. Definitely a personal preference thing, but I don't think you'll regret not getting it.
As for Entry and Drive, I have it in the Macan. It has advantages, but I prefer to skip it in the cars. Neither the GT4 not the 718 have it. Definitely a personal preference thing, but I don't think you'll regret not getting it.
#39
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Thread Starter
Even leaner. Dumped the Bose and the Entry & Drive. Ticks all the right boxes IMO.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKJFG1I8
Likin' it...
$143,500 CND / $108,409 USD
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKJFG1I8
Likin' it...
$143,500 CND / $108,409 USD
Last edited by Zeus993; 01-11-2019 at 02:29 AM.
#40
Thats a $126K build in the US, conversion rates are in your favor, Great Car!
#41
The chrono package does nothing on the T either.
#42
Racer
I have Entry & Drive on my T and love it. I hate having to get the key out to lock and unlock the car and being able to just reach for the handle and have it unlock is great.
I also don't like having the keys on my keychain swaying around and making noise like they would do if I had to insert the traditional key in to start the car.
Have you spent much time in the LWBS? I haven't myself, but have heard they can be a PITA getting out of and only have manual adjustments. One video from The Straight Pipes guys on YouTube was hilarious when they used some tape on the center console as a reference point to move the seat back into the correct driving position each time.
I totally agree on the Bose delete. I have one in mine and it doesn't sound that great especially with the sound of the engine competing with it. I have ended up completely turning the PCM off and now never have the Bose on at all. I also agree on the sunroof delete and Sport wheels. I love the retro Fuchs style of those wheels and they are way easier to clean.
IMO the money for the tinted taillights is a waste. As I understand it, all you get is the little sliver in between the red plastic of the lights tinted darker. The PDLS is worth the money though. My car has it and it's great! My interior also has the silver accents instead of the red in yours. I found that the red is harder to see in the stripes on the seats vs the silver. Also be aware that the standard black plastic trim is a dust magnet. You can option leather instead at no cost like BA73 did.
Any way you configure it, the fact is that the T is an amazing package. You will LOVE it!
I also don't like having the keys on my keychain swaying around and making noise like they would do if I had to insert the traditional key in to start the car.
Have you spent much time in the LWBS? I haven't myself, but have heard they can be a PITA getting out of and only have manual adjustments. One video from The Straight Pipes guys on YouTube was hilarious when they used some tape on the center console as a reference point to move the seat back into the correct driving position each time.
I totally agree on the Bose delete. I have one in mine and it doesn't sound that great especially with the sound of the engine competing with it. I have ended up completely turning the PCM off and now never have the Bose on at all. I also agree on the sunroof delete and Sport wheels. I love the retro Fuchs style of those wheels and they are way easier to clean.
IMO the money for the tinted taillights is a waste. As I understand it, all you get is the little sliver in between the red plastic of the lights tinted darker. The PDLS is worth the money though. My car has it and it's great! My interior also has the silver accents instead of the red in yours. I found that the red is harder to see in the stripes on the seats vs the silver. Also be aware that the standard black plastic trim is a dust magnet. You can option leather instead at no cost like BA73 did.
Any way you configure it, the fact is that the T is an amazing package. You will LOVE it!
#43
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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I am tall, fat, and decrepit and can entry and egress fine from LWB. But, you have to give them the butt test and try them for yourself. IMHO, the LWB option is the biggest draw of the T. They really make the car feel different.
#44
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Thread Starter
Personally I am a fan of the dials in white. However you do loose the Carrera T lettering on the Tach. They look great on a white exterior Carrera.
Agree on the entry and drive as i as I do like the analog experience of inserting the key to start the car (keeping in mind you can remove the dummy key) but what sold me was being able to simply hover my hand close to the front trunk to open the lid without reaching for the keys.
Agree on the entry and drive as i as I do like the analog experience of inserting the key to start the car (keeping in mind you can remove the dummy key) but what sold me was being able to simply hover my hand close to the front trunk to open the lid without reaching for the keys.
There are several white Ts available Nationwide and there appears to be one in Atlanta that's a Manual, with PCCBs, and LWBs. I'm happy to go look at it for you if you'd like this weekend, if it's available. Maybe your local dealer could transfer it.
As for Entry and Drive, I have it in the Macan. It has advantages, but I prefer to skip it in the cars. Neither the GT4 not the 718 have it. Definitely a personal preference thing, but I don't think you'll regret not getting it.
As for Entry and Drive, I have it in the Macan. It has advantages, but I prefer to skip it in the cars. Neither the GT4 not the 718 have it. Definitely a personal preference thing, but I don't think you'll regret not getting it.
It doesn't sharpen the engive response? Give that extra little boost?
I have Entry & Drive on my T and love it. I hate having to get the key out to lock and unlock the car and being able to just reach for the handle and have it unlock is great.
I also don't like having the keys on my keychain swaying around and making noise like they would do if I had to insert the traditional key in to start the car.
Have you spent much time in the LWBS? I haven't myself but have heard they can be a PITA getting out of and only have manual adjustments. One video from The Straight Pipes guys on YouTube was hilarious when they used some tape on the centre console as a reference point to move the seat back into the correct driving position each time.
I totally agree on the Bose delete. I have one in mine and it doesn't sound that great especially with the sound of the engine competing with it. I have ended up completely turning the PCM off and now never have the Bose on at all. I also agree on the sunroof delete and Sport wheels. I love the retro Fuchs style of those wheels and they are way easier to clean.
IMO the money for the tinted taillights is a waste. As I understand it, all you get is the little sliver in between the red plastic of the lights tinted darker. The PDLS is worth the money though. My car has it and it's great! My interior also has the silver accents instead of the red in yours. I found that the red is harder to see in the stripes on the seats vs the silver. Also be aware that the standard black plastic trim is a dust magnet. You can option leather instead at no cost like BA73 did.
Any way you configure it, the fact is that the T is an amazing package. You will LOVE it!
I also don't like having the keys on my keychain swaying around and making noise like they would do if I had to insert the traditional key in to start the car.
Have you spent much time in the LWBS? I haven't myself but have heard they can be a PITA getting out of and only have manual adjustments. One video from The Straight Pipes guys on YouTube was hilarious when they used some tape on the centre console as a reference point to move the seat back into the correct driving position each time.
I totally agree on the Bose delete. I have one in mine and it doesn't sound that great especially with the sound of the engine competing with it. I have ended up completely turning the PCM off and now never have the Bose on at all. I also agree on the sunroof delete and Sport wheels. I love the retro Fuchs style of those wheels and they are way easier to clean.
IMO the money for the tinted taillights is a waste. As I understand it, all you get is the little sliver in between the red plastic of the lights tinted darker. The PDLS is worth the money though. My car has it and it's great! My interior also has the silver accents instead of the red in yours. I found that the red is harder to see in the stripes on the seats vs the silver. Also be aware that the standard black plastic trim is a dust magnet. You can option leather instead at no cost like BA73 did.
Any way you configure it, the fact is that the T is an amazing package. You will LOVE it!
I agree 100%. I've got LWBS in my Gen-1 Spyder and they are a bit of work to drop into. But once in they are so incredibly good. The new LWBS, coming in the T's, are slightly larger and easier to get into. And I agree, these with the RAS and the light weight glass are what make this 911 iteration so special.
Last edited by Zeus993; 01-11-2019 at 10:25 AM.
#45
Not on the T. The Chrono pkg puts the clock wart on the dash and gives you the Porsche Track Precision app. My non Chrono T still has the dial on the steering wheel for Normal, Sport, Sport + and Individual settings.