How many here have placed 2019 orders to avoid the 992?
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How many here have placed 2019 orders to avoid the 992?
im trying for a 991.2 GT3. If I can’t get that allocation, I’m still thinking of trading my Turbo in on a 2019 GTS if I can get that (really want a manual). I’ve got a 2019 Cayenne and really like it, but trying to make pictures of gauges look like real gauges on the dash just won’t age well. I’m wanting to get analog gauges before they are gone.
Anyone else in the same boat?
Anyone else in the same boat?
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My SA has 2 991.2 allocations for GTS Coupes right now, one a C2 and the other a C4, and if you mention me (Bob Z. from Rennlist) he'l discount it. Javier at Reeves Porsche (jgerena@drivereeves.com) and he can ship it to your nearest dealer. If you really want a GT3 he can get that as well but no discount.
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I'll admit to being one that made that decision, 991.2 over 992, fairly early on with not a lot of 992 information available. This was back in the late-April timeframe. What information that was available then led me to expect some changes that might lessen the analog nature of the car and move away from the smooth body styling of the 991 Carrera. While the performance of the 992 will no doubt be an improvement over previous generations, 991.2 has more than enough performance for me that styling and basic function became the primary reason for pulling the trigger now than taking a chance on the new design.
Less than a month away from taking delivery of my very own 991.2 Carrera S
Less than a month away from taking delivery of my very own 991.2 Carrera S
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Same here
ordered a 991.2 c2s dec allocation
dont like the panamera gauges (they look toy like and plasticky), the gimmicky haptic plastic center console, the stubby shifter pdk, larger size of the 992. I just feel that the 991.2 looks just about perfect. Also I think the prices now are low relative to the inflation of all cars and Porsche is going to raise them soon.
For instance, the macan refresh base msrp has gone up 5% and that’s before you add adjusted prices for the options. I figure a 992 s will be 10% more similarly speced with my options.
ordered a 991.2 c2s dec allocation
dont like the panamera gauges (they look toy like and plasticky), the gimmicky haptic plastic center console, the stubby shifter pdk, larger size of the 992. I just feel that the 991.2 looks just about perfect. Also I think the prices now are low relative to the inflation of all cars and Porsche is going to raise them soon.
For instance, the macan refresh base msrp has gone up 5% and that’s before you add adjusted prices for the options. I figure a 992 s will be 10% more similarly speced with my options.
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My only reservation / fear about the 992, which I'm sure will be a better car in nearly all respects, is that designers seem to increasingly like angles and sharp lines on the body panels instead of the beautiful rounded and smooth tactile panels. You can see it particularly in the evolution of BMW's, Audis and Volkswagens but all manufacturers seem to be following the trend. I think I'm in a minority but I much preferred my 987 Boxster with those big round hips to the 981 and 718 progressions.
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Replaced a 2015 5 series with a 2016 6 series. Due to getting rear ended and not because I wanted. The 5 series had nice machined aluminum gauges that were like wearing a nice mechanical watch. I liked them so much better than the cartoon in the 6 series - regardless of all the "options" that are ultimately redundant to a simple, elegant tach and speedo.
With all this tech - cars become obsolete so much faster... like iPhones.
With all this tech - cars become obsolete so much faster... like iPhones.
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Even thought the 992 has the front lines and hood reminiscentt of a 993 which I find to be the best for my taste, can not really handle the Panamera influence and constant deletion of the analog components and digitalization of the 911. Further and fusrther away from the 997 as well. That is the reason I actually got a hold of a 2018 GTS Targa myself.
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I was in the market for an unjustifiable sport car purchase, in the end ordered the 991.2.
I don't buy new models of any make on their first run.
That the 992 ended up with a number of features that aren't pleasing to me, dash, interior, wing, exhaust, validated my decision. Others may disagree, but it's all about personal choice.
The scheduled performance increases aren't a selling point to me, the current cars are crazy fast, that my 0-60 is a few tenths slower or has a lower top speed (already over 180 mph) isn't an issue.
I'm sure the 992 will be fine, but it doesn't mean that older models will turn into lead once the new ones are out.
I don't buy new models of any make on their first run.
That the 992 ended up with a number of features that aren't pleasing to me, dash, interior, wing, exhaust, validated my decision. Others may disagree, but it's all about personal choice.
The scheduled performance increases aren't a selling point to me, the current cars are crazy fast, that my 0-60 is a few tenths slower or has a lower top speed (already over 180 mph) isn't an issue.
I'm sure the 992 will be fine, but it doesn't mean that older models will turn into lead once the new ones are out.
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I was in the market for an unjustifiable sport car purchase, in the end ordered the 991.2.
I don't buy new models of any make on their first run.
That the 992 ended up with a number of features that aren't pleasing to me, dash, interior, wing, exhaust, validated my decision. Others may disagree, but it's all about personal choice.
The scheduled performance increases aren't a selling point to me, the current cars are crazy fast, that my 0-60 is a few tenths slower or has a lower top speed (already over 180 mph) isn't an issue.
I'm sure the 992 will be fine, but it doesn't mean that older models will turn into lead once the new ones are out.
I don't buy new models of any make on their first run.
That the 992 ended up with a number of features that aren't pleasing to me, dash, interior, wing, exhaust, validated my decision. Others may disagree, but it's all about personal choice.
The scheduled performance increases aren't a selling point to me, the current cars are crazy fast, that my 0-60 is a few tenths slower or has a lower top speed (already over 180 mph) isn't an issue.
I'm sure the 992 will be fine, but it doesn't mean that older models will turn into lead once the new ones are out.
But they may turn into GOLD if we are lucky !
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Even thought the 992 has the front lines and hood reminiscentt of a 993 which I find to be the best for my taste, can not really handle the Panamera influence and constant deletion of the analog components and digitalization of the 911. Further and fusrther away from the 997 as well. That is the reason I actually got a hold of a 2018 GTS Targa myself.
I think the new 992 transmission will get replaced in the 992.2... its an 8 speed with the additional gear between our 6 & 7... that parts bin mentality bugs me. I'm not technical but I read/understood it to be more like 2 x 4 speed transmissions that were shorter and this leaves room for a coming hybrid option. The whole design is a stepping stone towards batteries. For this reason I think there are too many compromises to a gasoline platform. Like in cults they introduce the crazy a little at a time to when it's full on snakes and koolaid you don't think it's a big deal. or Socialism
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I know that the automotive future is heavy with electric propulsion, either as an assist or eventually the only source of propulsion, but the additional complexity of the hybrids puts me off. Once you transition to all-electric, if done right, reliability and longevity should be better.
From what I've read, the new trans is designed to accommodate future hybrid components, such as a motor within the unit. If hybrids become the de facto standard at Porsche, you can probably kiss the manual trans good-bye. Get them while you can.
From what I've read, the new trans is designed to accommodate future hybrid components, such as a motor within the unit. If hybrids become the de facto standard at Porsche, you can probably kiss the manual trans good-bye. Get them while you can.