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^^^ Nice! If my car was purely for me, I might have ended up with a GT4 with buckets that my Porsche Centre had for sale! ;)

P.S. Sorry for wandering off topic!

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Originally Posted by Wing Commander (Post 15696604)

^^^ Nice! If my car was purely for me, I might have ended up with a GT4 with buckets that my Porsche Centre had for sale!

I’ve owned both. Carrera T is a keeper, GT4 was not. And you picked the right seats, too. ;)

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Originally Posted by FORENN (Post 15697154)

I’ve owned both. Carrera T is a keeper, GT4 was not. And you picked the right seats, too. ;)

Thanks! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wing Commander (Post 15696604)

^^^ Nice! If my car was purely for me, I might have ended up with a GT4 with buckets that my Porsche Centre had for sale! ;)

P.S. Sorry for wandering off topic!

I have a 2012 Cayman R for track use so I didn't need dual purpose with this one. Although it does great on the track too and will see more track time over the years......

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Originally Posted by spyderbret (Post 15699083)

I have a 2012 Cayman R for track use so I didn't need dual purpose with this one. Although it does great on the track too and will see more track time over the years......

Nice combo! :thumbup:

So - this is 962 Cars for North America if I read it right. Very interesting.

It’s interesting that PDK selection varies so greatly by year and color.

Wow, they build more GT2RSs than Ts....very interesting.

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Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro (Post 15702644)

It’s interesting that PDK selection varies so greatly by year and color.

Much higher percentage of PDK cars in 2019 compared to the 2018 ones. Could the 2019 numbers include more dealer-specced Ts I wonder...?

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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3 (Post 15702691)

Wow, they build more GT2RSs than Ts....very interesting.

Nice to have a 991.2 that’s rarer than a GT2 RS! ;)

Although I think that North America gets more GT cars proportionately, than here in the UK.

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Originally Posted by Wing Commander (Post 15703869)

Much higher percentage of PDK cars in 2019 compared to the 2018 ones. Could the 2019 numbers include more dealer-specced Ts I wonder...?

No doubt about it.

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Originally Posted by FORENN (Post 15697154)

I’ve owned both. Carrera T is a keeper, GT4 was not. And you picked the right seats, too. ;)

Hmmm, my guess is your GT4's spec was pretty vanilla compared to your Carrera T. That's the only way I would feel similarly.

I actually think of the T as a more modern and user friendly GT4. They both are of a more purist design philosophy from most other variants (well unless you spec the purist out of the T with PDK, sunroof, etc.). But both being sub 400 hp cars they do require effort to get them to perform and their purpose is more singular than with their siblings.

While I don't own a Carrera T and therefore can't make an owner's comparison, I do have a GT4 and a fat and heavy 991.2 Targa 4S, which had a MSRP of $178k. Now the 3k mile Targa's retail value is roughly $140k. My 1 year older 2.4k mile GT4 with a $117 MSRP is worth roughly $107k today. I don't see the Carrera T keeping its value any better than my Targa has, especially if daily driven. So from a value perspective, the GT4 is the keeper. Not sure if the Carrera T will ever be well understood in the future market. Most don't really know about it today. Plus perhaps it's easily discounted for being sub 400 hp? That's why I think its value won't hold like other low production Porsche offerings have. Time will tell. If my wife didn't love her Targa so much, I wouldn't mind having a Carrera T. But it would be PDK for her and that would make me think I didn't have what Porsche envisioned, and I wouldn't like that as much.

Incidentially when I spec out a Carrera T it comes out to around $140k. And that's with no sunroof or PDK, or side stripes. I would opt for the traditional "908" side stripes instead. In my way of thinking PCCB and full leather are musts for cars over $100k (and rear axle steering on 911s). PCCB even more so for the Carrera T since it's spec'd with the base brakes. Not sure why Porsche did that considering the base price is higher than a base Carrera??

No doubt the gt4 holds value better than the t is expected to but I think the point is that it is more usable than the gt4 for the street. For the track the gt4 is the winner hands down. I also owned a pretty high spec gt4 that I traded for my t for this exact reason (more street use than track). While I hope your current market value for your gt4 is correct, I think it’s a bit closer to the low 100s/high 90s as the values have dropped a bit over the past 6 months or so and in anticipation of the 718 gt4 coming out(but still pretty strong). To the right buyer I am sure they will pay the money.