High Mile 991.1 worth it?
09-20-2018, 11:32 AM
#16
Rennlist Member
Personally I wouldnt......but if the car is really clean....and for the right price...then maybe....
just remember to set aside a good amount for repairs and wear and tear replacement. At 70k miles there are a few things that the car might need (again depending on condition and past maint history)
just remember to set aside a good amount for repairs and wear and tear replacement. At 70k miles there are a few things that the car might need (again depending on condition and past maint history)
09-20-2018, 12:07 PM
#17
Three Wheelin'
I too think if you hunt you might find a 991.1 in your price range but there won't be many.
If this is your 1st Porsche don't forget to look at 997 cars. I think the 997 was a great Porsche 911 and one of the prettiest. Great engine, handling and a very nice 6 speed gear box. One of my favorite Porsche's. 997.2 era cars are definitely worth looking at. Not much different than the 991.1 and in some ways better.
If this is your 1st Porsche don't forget to look at 997 cars. I think the 997 was a great Porsche 911 and one of the prettiest. Great engine, handling and a very nice 6 speed gear box. One of my favorite Porsche's. 997.2 era cars are definitely worth looking at. Not much different than the 991.1 and in some ways better.
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09-20-2018, 01:18 PM
#18
If you do look at the 997 cars make sure it is a 997.2 post 2009.
I just did a search and I feel lucky about getting my 2013 for what I did. Here is a search for 997's 2009-2011
http://tinyurl.com/yblzwhbt
I just did a search and I feel lucky about getting my 2013 for what I did. Here is a search for 997's 2009-2011
http://tinyurl.com/yblzwhbt
Last edited by NCThirteen; 09-20-2018 at 01:24 PM. Reason: Added Search
09-21-2018, 11:55 AM
#19
Rennlist Member
If you do look at the 997 cars make sure it is a 997.2 post 2009.
I just did a search and I feel lucky about getting my 2013 for what I did. Here is a search for 997's 2009-2011
http://tinyurl.com/yblzwhbt
I just did a search and I feel lucky about getting my 2013 for what I did. Here is a search for 997's 2009-2011
http://tinyurl.com/yblzwhbt
09-21-2018, 05:05 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
IMF issues affected less than 1% of 997 & 996. I'll try to find the article. Even 996 and early 997 cars are bullet proof. Had 4 TT cars of 996 & 997 vintage. Great cars.
09-21-2018, 06:04 PM
#21
09-21-2018, 11:57 PM
#22
I'm not a gambling man. 1% chance is low but that it equates to engine failure requiring a complete rebuild or replacement seems a bit much.
09-22-2018, 12:10 AM
#23
IMS is very overrated, and already had a 997, and a 997.2 so now in the market for a 991. Seems like the prices are about $55K for a low mile 991. Think that once the 992 hits the market more car 991.1 will become available.
Might have to wait this out until next year
Might have to wait this out until next year
09-22-2018, 03:01 AM
#25
Not true -- much higher than that. Also it's IMS, which stands for intermediate shaft. It's the gear driven off the crank that drives the cams. The bearing fails and grenades the motor. And there are other problems with the M96/M97 engines, like cylinder wall cracking. At least with a 993 you can change the valve guides.
09-22-2018, 03:51 AM
#26
So your saying that much higher than 1% of 997 owners have ims failure? So since 212,704 different 997 variants were made how many had ims failures?
i had bore scoring which luckily resulted in me getting a Raby 4.0 and an IMS solution that will never fail.
But I have to believe that my good luck is nowhere near the 1% or greater.
i had bore scoring which luckily resulted in me getting a Raby 4.0 and an IMS solution that will never fail.
But I have to believe that my good luck is nowhere near the 1% or greater.
09-22-2018, 08:25 AM
#27
Rennlist Member
Not true -- much higher than that. Also it's IMS, which stands for intermediate shaft. It's the gear driven off the crank that drives the cams. The bearing fails and grenades the motor. And there are other problems with the M96/M97 engines, like cylinder wall cracking. At least with a 993 you can change the valve guides.
IMO they are still great options for 1st Porsche buyers.
Last edited by Penn4S; 09-22-2018 at 08:59 AM.
04-26-2019, 08:31 PM
#29
I'm guessing the 991.1 depreciation is going to stay slow since it's the last NA standard 911, kind of like cayman 981 going up in value. I think you're going to be way better off spending a bit more to get a lower mileage example, the depreciation will fall off a cliff taking it to 6 figure mileage.
