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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 11:51 PM
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The "~!@#$ Previous Owner (PO)" thread is long on the 928 forum. I figured to start the tradition for 991s.

As time goes by more and more participants on this sub-forum will not be the first owners of their 991s. As a result, we'll have the opportunity to 'discover' things done to our 991s by the Previous Owner.

In my case, it seems that the PO of my wife's '16 991S MT dumped a cup of sugared coffee (or something similar) into the HVAC controller. Most of the right-side buttons couldn't be pressed-in, or when they could, wouldn't release thereby causing HVAC havoc.

Of course, I didn't discover this during my PPI (left side was fine) and Porsche won't warranty the repair "because: coffee." Instead the Dealer would like ~$1100 to replace the controller. !@#$ that.

It's like the Lego Set From Hell. For example, the buttons that have the single light in them? There are 8 of them but there are 5 unique clear plastic parts.

It took me 4.79 hours start to finish including clean-up and cleaning under the controller and the bottom of the PCM. I could probably cut an hour out the next time - better not be a next time - I have to do this. Still, that works out to a $460/hr before tax labor rate as compared to paying the dealer with after-tax money

Thanks PO...



Post your !@#$#ing PO stories.
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 10:21 AM
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Dang....that would have taken me at least 4.81 hrs to do that work.

Good job on the DIY.
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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PO had a front plate mounted and drilled the bumper. Seriously uncool.
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekS
PO had a front plate mounted and drilled the bumper. Seriously uncool.
PO should be beaten for than, lol.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 9914s
what he said.....it would have taken me .038 hours to figure out I was not going to disassemble the controller (with any sanity left)
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DerekS
PO had a front plate mounted and drilled the bumper. Seriously uncool.
Easy fix for front plate holes.
Bumper Plugs Color match is very good almost invisible.

Cman21

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Originally Posted by 9914s
Good job OP next time check eBay .
You are, of course, free to order the wrong controller from ebay. You might also consider the Socratic Method before assuming that I’m an idiot. You might learn something (perhaps even somethings) I know that you don’t.

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what he said.....it would have taken me .038 hours to figure out I was not going to disassemble the controller (with any sanity left)
You are free not to do any DIY work to your 991. This is why dealer service departments exist.

Did you two look past the first hit on ebay? I think not.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by worf928


You are, of course, free to order the wrong controller from ebay. You might also consider the Socratic Method before assuming that I’m an idiot. You might learn something (perhaps even somethings) I know that you don’t.


You are free not to do any DIY work to your 991. This is why dealer service departments exist.

Did you two look past the first hit on ebay? I think not.


Hey tough guy where did I say you where an Idiot. All I said was good job, but getting the part online was probably easier. If it sounded like that to you my apologies.

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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 9914s
Hey tough guy where did I say you where an Idiot. All I said was good job, but getting the part online was probably easier. If it sounded like that to you my apologies.
Once again: Socratic Method. For example:
What’s wrong with ‘this’ one on e-bay?
Why didn’t I buy a new one from any number of suppliers?
Why is it easier, better, cheaper, to DIY?


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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928

Once again: Socratic Method. For example:
What’s wrong with ‘this’ one on e-bay?
Why didn’t I buy a new one from any number of suppliers?
Why is it easier, better, cheaper, to DIY?


I'm tapping out...I'm not smart enough for this argument.

OP: While I do DIY my 993, I must admit that the 14 filters required when I change the oil is very confusing. I usually have 1-2 filters left over for some reason.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:33 PM
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Thankfully the PO of my car left it in absolutely pristine condition, and was meticulously maintained. 20k miles on the clock when I bought it, and not even so much as one single rock chip on the front bumper.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:41 PM
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The PO of my car had one of the worst bumper resprays. The color match is great, but they did not paint the bumper off the car and the masking was horrible. Overspray on so many things and the driver side is pretty dry.

2 of the wheels were also “repaired,” but the repair job probably looks worse than the wheels did curbed.

At some point I’ll have these properly corrected, but right now, I’m just enjoying having the car.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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I was thrilled to find two cigarette burns on one of my rear floor mats in my "pristine, always garaged, non-smoker" owned car. The car has never smelled like smoke, so the PO must have only smoked with the top down. That would explain how the hot ashes blew onto the floor in the back. I've replaced the mats, so the burn marks are gone.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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Here is a good one. Many years ago I bought a 996 turbo.

Had a friend who was local to the car drive it - no PPI done. He said it was fine (and he had a 996 turbo so knew how they should drive).

Had it delivered.

As soon as I drove it, I felt something goofy with the transmission.

I was thinking I'd be on the hook for a huge repair bill. It felt like the the shifter cables were not working properly - so, I took it apart.

Apparently the prior owner kept trying to put change in the ashtray and did not realize the slot went into the console - it is not a piggy bank

The pics are worth a 1000 words Looks like I received a large rebate!!!!

As I started to take it apart, I had hope - look what we have here - just a few coins. And, kids bike helmet for scale:






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