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Old 03-27-2018, 07:09 PM
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New to the P world...and I am looking to buy a 2013 911 C2S CPO with under 10K miles from a dealer. The dealer says the "time duration" of Porsche recommended maintenance does not need to be done, due to low mileage...like the 4 year maintenance requirements ( plugs, air filters, oil changes) or the 2 year maintenance( like brake flush, tire sealant etc). Additionally all the tires wear shows uneven wear on the tire( inside, center and outside)...should the dealer not be doing a tire alignment as well?
Am I wrong in my expectations? Looking for unbiassed advise...TIA.
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The dealership is telling you BS. That's unfortunate.
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Originally Posted by VKG-NJ
New to the P world...and I am looking to buy a 2013 911 C2S CPO with under 10K miles from a dealer. The dealer says the "time duration" of Porsche recommended maintenance does not need to be done, due to low mileage...like the 4 year maintenance requirements ( plugs, air filters, oil changes) or the 2 year maintenance( like brake flush, tire sealant etc). Additionally all the tires wear shows uneven wear on the tire( inside, center and outside)...should the dealer not be doing a tire alignment as well?
Am I wrong in my expectations? Looking for unbiassed advise...TIA.
LIES. Just show them in the manual where Porsche says otherwise. Also - You PAID extra money for CPO so the dealer should have done the work to actual ensure it is certified.
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Here's The documentation from my CPO. It clearly states that scheduled maintenance will be performed within 2500 miles or if it was more than 10 months ago.Name:  photo116.jpg
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Originally Posted by VKG-NJ
New to the P world...and I am looking to buy a 2013 911 C2S CPO with under 10K miles from a dealer. The dealer says the "time duration" of Porsche recommended maintenance does not need to be done, due to low mileage...like the 4 year maintenance requirements ( plugs, air filters, oil changes) or the 2 year maintenance( like brake flush, tire sealant etc). Additionally all the tires wear shows uneven wear on the tire( inside, center and outside)...should the dealer not be doing a tire alignment as well?
Am I wrong in my expectations? Looking for unbiassed advise...TIA.
Wow. I think the company that designed and built the cars may know better than the Sales Associate at your dealership franchise.
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CPO is a marketing scam, plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
CPO is a marketing scam, plain and simple.
Please explain the reasons why the Porsche cpo is a scam?
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
CPO is a marketing scam, plain and simple.
Yes, being that I buy almost exclusively CPO vehicles, I would like to understand your comment too.
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Thanks R Listers...this is an amazing learning for newbies.

The dealer has sent me the CPO list, and has "checked" that all maintenance is up to date. He states that nothing is due before October of this year.

When I have pushed him, he says that the previous owner got the 40K service done as well...and can show this to me in the system...but cant give me a copy of the previous owner service records. Sounds BS to me. I also showed him the Porsche maintenance schedules I got from a buddy ...(attached here if anyone needs it)
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Originally Posted by VKG-NJ
Thanks R Listers...this is an amazing learning for newbies.

The dealer has sent me the CPO list, and has "checked" that all maintenance is up to date. He states that nothing is due before October of this year.

When I have pushed him, he says that the previous owner got the 40K service done as well...and can show this to me in the system...but cant give me a copy of the previous owner service records. Sounds BS to me. I also showed him the Porsche maintenance schedules I got from a buddy ...(attached here if anyone needs it)
you don’t happen to be buying from Hennessy are you? Sounds similar to what I heard from them but eventually pushed them and got them to cover what I needed them to.

Many dealers will not show the actual customer record to protect the customer information. Some will Black out the names and give you the records, others will give you a summary of records with the date it was completed but without any detail on it so it doesn’t show their name. Most people are not wanting the same level of detailed service info as us Rennlisters, so it is easier for them to just not give out detailed info to anyone.
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Originally Posted by VKG-NJ
Thanks R Listers...this is an amazing learning for newbies.

The dealer has sent me the CPO list, and has "checked" that all maintenance is up to date. He states that nothing is due before October of this year.

When I have pushed him, he says that the previous owner got the 40K service done as well...and can show this to me in the system...but cant give me a copy of the previous owner service records. Sounds BS to me. I also showed him the Porsche maintenance schedules I got from a buddy ...(attached here if anyone needs it)
This sounds like a dealer in Edison to me somehow
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The dealer is in FL..am there tomorrow, so let’s see how this goes!
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Originally Posted by n8kruger
Here's The documentation from my CPO. It clearly states that scheduled maintenance will be performed within 2500 miles or if it was more than 10 months ago.Attachment 1277940
I just noticed that the check box for 2500 miles or... is not checked..perhaps they weee trying to get away with this.
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I got a receipt for the maintenance performed including oil change and brake and hydraulic fluid changes. If you buy the car you should get similar documentation for up-to-date service.
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Originally Posted by VKG-NJ
Thanks R Listers...this is an amazing learning for newbies.

The dealer has sent me the CPO list, and has "checked" that all maintenance is up to date. He states that nothing is due before October of this year.

When I have pushed him, he says that the previous owner got the 40K service done as well...and can show this to me in the system...but cant give me a copy of the previous owner service records. Sounds BS to me. I also showed him the Porsche maintenance schedules I got from a buddy ...(attached here if anyone needs it)
That is definitely BS - they can black out the previous customer information and leave the VIN.

Also - I wouldn't be surprised if most of the CPO checklist is simply pencil-whipped. There's a container on the top of the CPO checklist for the "vehicle kit" (compressor, tools, etc). Of course I didn't actually open up the kit when I bought the car. A month later, I opened it and.... it's missing most of the tools. The only thing it has is a towing hook, compressor, and tire sealant - I guess I should be thankful it has that.


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