koala

I didn't get much on mine. The challenge is they know the MT's are in demand.

Mine was listed at $99,900. I paid that price, and they included enclosed transport (around $2k) + a battery tender. Could I have negotiated more? Probably.

Don't let the fact that it's Porsche scare ya. They're still a car dealership, and they still grind deals

spiderv6

Of course you can offer and lowball. They don't have to accept it.

They will lowball you with a trade in without a second thought.

These are just used cars and they are just used car salesman. Same games as anywhere else.

Don't get bedazzled by the badge (until you have bought it, then it's totally different!!)

JonCanadian

If it were me, I'd try 105 Cdn and see where that goes. Simon at Marks is a good guy. Just give him a call and chat for a bit. You might get a feel at how desperate they are to move it.

spiderv6

Is that a Canada thing? I see MT's sitting on the lot forever around here. In fact as an MT buyer you have the upper hand because you are buying something that 90% of buyers would not even consider.

matthewr87

Okay thanks guys. Good to know. And yeah, the relative lack of manual cars really hurts the negotiating position, that's for sure.

matthewr87

Okay thanks. I'll look him up and give him a call tomorrow.

matthewr87

From my searching it seems like a Canada thing. Ironically I am currently living in Texas, but it is temporary, and I do not want to buy the car in the States and have to deal with import hassles when I return to Canada.

koala

Yes, very rare here. Not a lot of 911's in Canada in the first place, and then MT's are less than 10%. Literally, a two-year search to find the right one for me.

If Porsche hadn't gone turbo with the 991.2 I would gladly have just ordered a new one spec'd the way I want. But, I guess I saved $50k.

spiderv6

So i would say 90/10 is the same in the south, but I would take the position that I am a rare buyer for that hard-to-shift manual you have out on the lot and I am about to do you a big favor and take it off your hands for a very special price.............that worked for me, but I guess the overall volumes play a factor into market pricing.

I keep an eye on inventory at my local dealer and I know that whenever they have a manual in stock it will take them much much longer to move that car - hence my assertion that those are buyers cars.

koala

I totally hear what you're saying. But, they're just such oddly different markets. You have 10 times the population and more than 10 times the vehicle volume. It's amazing how much that changes the complexion. From searching the past two years I can say that generally speaking, there were never any more than 5-10 MT 991's for sale in Canada at any given time. In the US right now on Auto Trader you have 122 2013-2016 coupes with a MT.

.2PDK

Yup, I encountered the same dynamic when looking for my MT and jumped on it the first day I saw it.

matthewr87

Any idea how much the previous owner received for it upon trade in?

matthewr87

Any thoughts on this one?

https://dfcporsche.com/ext/onepagerp...ory_id=1608137

koala

That one is pretty loaded up for sure! Priced reasonably well.

matthewr87

Yeah I missed it before. Can't see it on autotrader. Main problem is the colour. I swore I would never own another black car in my life; my first Mustang was black. My hair went grey because of it.