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Old 11-04-2017, 09:00 PM
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Not sure if it works the same way but on my 2016 STI, the hill hold braking effectiveness is proportional to how much pressure you apply to the brakes right before you come to a stop. If you only apply light pressure, the hill hold will apply light pressure and the car may roll back. I've seen the hill hold light come on in my TTS regularly but it has an automatic and so I usually don't pay it much attention. I love the function on my subaru.
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This is one of those features that should be the owners choice. If you know how to drive a mt, you don't need or want it.
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Hahah...I've been driving stick for many decades but I still love the hill hold feature on the subaru.
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Originally Posted by JW1
Hahah...I've been driving stick for many decades but I still love the hill hold feature on the subaru.
I'm speechless!
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But there is actually a way to disable it on the Subi so it ends up being owner's choice whether to have it or not. Wonder if there is a way to deactivate it on the Porsche without involving the dealership.
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My 2017 MT hill hold works very consistently, both forward and reverse. I did have to learn to make sure I use the right procedure:
1. Hold the brake pedal.
2. Clutch in.
3. Shift (into 1st or reverse), HOLD shows up in display.
4. Release brake--car stays in place.

And I find it handy, especially for entering my garage. The driveway has a slope and I park in the single bay and don't have to think about rolling back or accelerating too fast.
Old 11-05-2017, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001f4s
I found it takes some getting used to. Been driving manual trans for many years, and have never stalled a car more than this one. You definitely need to give it more throttle on the starts on hills from a stop, than you might be used to.
I agree - when it activates (note there's a green light in the cluster that says "HOLD" when it's on), it's only on inclines a lot more than 5%, and you really need to give it more throttle because you're kind of overcoming the extra braking and not just the incline. At least that is how it feels to me.

On my BMW, the hold feature comes on for any incline, even mild inclines, and the feel is more natural when starting off, like it releases a lot sooner or just more naturally somehow. Not a major gripe, but this feature on Porsche seems a little more awkward. I still appreciate it though and prefer it to the days when you had to balance with the hand brake.
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Originally Posted by seapar
I have a 2016 GT4. Works on the Seattle hills just fine.
According to Porsche the GT4 does not have Hill Hold... even though mine comes on. I complained because the Hold light does not activate except for when you first turn on the ignition on my GT4. Porsche says we don’t have it and that is why the light doesn’t come on. Guess I have a mystery brake system that holds the car on incline through magic. LOL
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GT4 has the hill hold feature. Wife’s 05 Boxster manual does not. But it does have the e brake handle rather than a button that is omnipresent nowadays.
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I had a 2013S manual and I did not like the hold function at all, it was grabby. The 2017 manual car I have now has a hold function that works very well. Another improvement is the clutch being much easier to engage.
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When at the mountain vacay home I use it frequently. It would be quite an inconvenience to not have it.
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I hate Porsche’s Hill Hold. Pittsburgh has some of the steepest hills in the world... Audi filmed a Quattro commercial here on one of them! I don’t mind the concept... it’s been invisibly effective on various cars I’ve owned from a Fiesta ST up to my 550i. Ironically, Porsche’s “system” is the most intrusive and the only one that the driver can’t shut-off.
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Originally Posted by bkrantz
My 2017 MT hill hold works very consistently, both forward and reverse. I did have to learn to make sure I use the right procedure:
1. Hold the brake pedal.
2. Clutch in.
3. Shift (into 1st or reverse), HOLD shows up in display.
4. Release brake--car stays in place.

And I find it handy, especially for entering my garage. The driveway has a slope and I park in the single bay and don't have to think about rolling back or accelerating too fast.
Somebody tell me how that is intrusive. lol
Old 11-05-2017, 09:47 AM
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Many thanks for the feedback all. I appreciate the level setting (no pun intended) or calibration regarding how steep is a 5% incline and performance expectations of the Hold function.

Ultimately, I will treat the function as a back-up and simply expect roll back until I acclimate to the car. I’ve only put on 180 miles in a month of ownership because of business travel. Hopefully in a month I’m use to the car and it’s capabilities and nuances.
Old 11-05-2017, 01:53 PM
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I have a .1 and agree, I wish I could turn it off seems to activate randomly but I have only had the car for a short while. Also agree with the grabby comment when it does engage and surprise the crap.out you seems like it does not let.go quickly enough. Perhaps this is something that can fixed in programming after CPO warranty expires.


QUOTE=DNorby;14582240]I had a 2013S manual and I did not like the hold function at all, it was grabby. The 2017 manual car I have now has a hold function that works very well. Another improvement is the clutch being much easier to engage.[/QUOTE]


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