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I have been shopping for a 991.2 C4S, and I have noticed that many otherwise perfectly built cars are missing Rear Axle Steering when they do have Sport Chrono and Sport Exhaust and also have either the GT Sport Steering Wheel or the Sport Mirrors. I can understand skipping the elaborate Sport Steering Wheel, and I can understand skipping the Sport Mirrors if you want folding mirrors, but why do dealers build without the Rear Axle Steering when it seems so popular here on Rennlist. So I asked a dealer, and they said something to the effect that above a certain cost of options in a lease that the cost doesn't flow to the residual and must be made up by the buyer in the Cap Cost reduction, AND that sometimes eye candy sells over performance. A lot of these cars do have other glistening options (that to me seem unnecessary), but the price increase by selecting the Sport Package, which contains all five options, is max $800. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. I would prefer not to custom order since I want to drive a car by Thanksgiving. See below example.
I asked a similar question once about an in stock car I was interested in that didn't have SC but had optional wheels that cost more than SC; the answer was "fancy wheels sell cars".
I don't know how many spec cars get the sport package and I would guess spec ordering RAS alone is even rarer.
There is generally no obvious rhyme nor reason as to how dealers order cars. I'm pretty convinced they hang sheets of paper on the wall that have all the options arrayed on them, and then throw darts at the sheets while blindfolded.
How else would a $160 plastic gas cap imitating aluminum ever get optioned on a sports car?
Those who frequent Rennlist forums tend to be more performance oriented. The punters who generally buy off the lot are looking for the bling, not the beef.
Also consider that Porsche is now primarily an SUV manufacturer and secondarily a sports car manufacturer. As a result there are fewer 911/718 models in their inventory and the dealers get them "loaded" to use as demos (and sell to the punters). Performance oriented shoppers are usually willing to order a car that meets their exact requirements.
I would prefer not to custom order since I want to drive a car by Thanksgiving.
Afraid she'll change her mind, eh?
Suck it up, order the dam thing already. Not directing this (only) at you, my friend, but I'll never understand a person paying a buck-thirty for a "dream car" and taking what's on the lot. I see this on enthusiast fora all the time:
"I've wanted a Starship Motors XF2300 CGS4 ever since I was a kid and saw the one on Back to the Future. So I went down to the local Starship dealer and picked up a black XF2000 CG with auto-drive. I guess I really wanted a Gossamer Beige 2300 CGS4 manual when I went in, but I'm really starting to like the one I wound up with!"
Followed six months later by a post detailing the trade they worked on the Beige 2300 they'd really wanted all along, only losing 27,000 bucks in the deal.
Figure out exactly what you want, waltz down to the dealer and tell them to build it for you.
I would prefer not to custom order since I want to drive a car by Thanksgiving. See below example.
I am not sure what you are hoping for here. Nothing written in this thread is going to change your ability to find a car to drive by Thanksgiving. Either the dealers will have one on the lot you can settle for or you will need to order.
Ask yourself a year from now will you be more satisfied you had a car configured less than optimally but you could drive sooner or a car exactly like you want that you had to wait on?
Those are probably you two choices.
There is generally no obvious rhyme nor reason as to how dealers order cars. I'm pretty convinced they hang sheets of paper on the wall that have all the options arrayed on them, and then throw darts at the sheets while blindfolded.
How else would a $160 plastic gas cap imitating aluminum ever get optioned on a sports car?
A $160 plastic gas cap that no one ever sees except you...for about two minutes when you are filling up...
I'd like it to, if it were $1.99. But at $160 not so much.
BTW, I have one on my current car, but I bought the car off the lot, so I didn't have a lot to say about it. I did not order it on my current GTS order.
But I hear it's really useful navigating the Starbuck drive-thru.
This is very accurate! Definitely a must have to help avoid curb rash on your wheels...some of these drive throughs are designed to be an obstacle course!
I ordered a C4S without the sport package or RWS. I don't need them for a car that is used on back roads and occasional commuting. If you can discern RWS in a 4s in normal driving (not a racing circuit) you are an exceptional driver. Perhaps a professional. I don't need a farting exhaust either for 3k.
One can add a lot of options to the car like PSE, PDCC, RWS, etc. that add very little, IMO, to the feel of a 911 with a MT. I preferred to spend my money elswehere.
10-29-2017, 04:47 PM
991.2 C4S builds missing Rear Axle Steering - Why?
