911 Carrera T
04-04-2019, 10:37 AM
#421
Rennlist Member
My GT Silver T sits next to my 991.2 GT3, 911 # 30 something 911 that I’ve owned. All 991 series cars look the same when inside the car except the T with its unique interior. It absolutely sets the car apart and it’s the interior that we see when we drive.
you all have opinions as to must have options but no one mentions just how good looking those pinstripe seats, deviated stitching, door pulls etc. look. Further my T has the full leather T interior with the sportex seating surface (18ways) which I find extremely comfortable and wear so much better than alcantara.
for what it’s worth RAS steering will net a few tenths on a 10/10ths hot lap on track but will not be felt on the street. Any good 911 driver will tell you turn the nannies off and use the rear weight bias to throw that back end around corners, why do you think 911’s were so fearsome on tracks. Just my opinion of course but when grabbing keys to go to cars and coffee it’s the GT3, all other times it’s the T.
you all have opinions as to must have options but no one mentions just how good looking those pinstripe seats, deviated stitching, door pulls etc. look. Further my T has the full leather T interior with the sportex seating surface (18ways) which I find extremely comfortable and wear so much better than alcantara.
for what it’s worth RAS steering will net a few tenths on a 10/10ths hot lap on track but will not be felt on the street. Any good 911 driver will tell you turn the nannies off and use the rear weight bias to throw that back end around corners, why do you think 911’s were so fearsome on tracks. Just my opinion of course but when grabbing keys to go to cars and coffee it’s the GT3, all other times it’s the T.
04-04-2019, 10:41 AM
#422
My GT Silver T sits next to my 991.2 GT3, 911 # 30 something 911 that Ive owned. All 991 series cars look the same when inside the car except the T with its unique interior. It absolutely sets the car apart and its the interior that we see when we drive.
you all have opinions as to must have options but no one mentions just how good looking those pinstripe seats, deviated stitching, door pulls etc. look. Further my T has the full leather T interior with the sportex seating surface (18ways) which I find extremely comfortable and wear so much better than alcantara.
for what its worth RAS steering will net a few tenths on a 10/10ths hot lap on track but will not be felt on the street. Any good 911 driver will tell you turn the nannies off and use the rear weight bias to throw that back end around corners, why do you think 911s were so fearsome on tracks. Just my opinion of course but when grabbing keys to go to cars and coffee its the GT3, all other times its the T.
you all have opinions as to must have options but no one mentions just how good looking those pinstripe seats, deviated stitching, door pulls etc. look. Further my T has the full leather T interior with the sportex seating surface (18ways) which I find extremely comfortable and wear so much better than alcantara.
for what its worth RAS steering will net a few tenths on a 10/10ths hot lap on track but will not be felt on the street. Any good 911 driver will tell you turn the nannies off and use the rear weight bias to throw that back end around corners, why do you think 911s were so fearsome on tracks. Just my opinion of course but when grabbing keys to go to cars and coffee its the GT3, all other times its the T.
04-04-2019, 11:22 AM
#423
To each his own, but Id make a case that if youre thinking about a T the spec is:
RAS
carbon bucket seats (w. rear seat delete)
manual
no sunroof
ceramic brakes (not mandatory but they save a good bit of weight and that is what the T is all about)
These options are key IMO. If you need a sunroof, full leather, pdk, I think better off with the base carrera.
Once you load the T up with heavy sunroof and other options it takes away from the ClubSport throwback Porsche intended.
Porsche wanted to name it "Clubsport" after its spiritual predecessor, the 1987 911 Carrera 3.2 Clubsport, but BMW owns the trademark on that name these days. "T" is what they had left.
I actually think if they could have called it clubsport, or even RS america - it might have really added value to the car.
down the line this T will become a desirable model IMO - limited run of about 1,000 in the US, great car!
Not the most powerful, and certainly not slow, but there is something to be said about driving a slower car fast vs driving a 600hp car slow because you cant open it up on the street without going to jail!
RAS
carbon bucket seats (w. rear seat delete)
manual
no sunroof
ceramic brakes (not mandatory but they save a good bit of weight and that is what the T is all about)
These options are key IMO. If you need a sunroof, full leather, pdk, I think better off with the base carrera.
Once you load the T up with heavy sunroof and other options it takes away from the ClubSport throwback Porsche intended.
Porsche wanted to name it "Clubsport" after its spiritual predecessor, the 1987 911 Carrera 3.2 Clubsport, but BMW owns the trademark on that name these days. "T" is what they had left.
I actually think if they could have called it clubsport, or even RS america - it might have really added value to the car.
down the line this T will become a desirable model IMO - limited run of about 1,000 in the US, great car!
Not the most powerful, and certainly not slow, but there is something to be said about driving a slower car fast vs driving a 600hp car slow because you cant open it up on the street without going to jail!
04-04-2019, 11:54 AM
#424
Great post and that's indeed the key list of options, except I differ on buckets as I have no interest in giving up back seats in a Carrera and I'm honestly sick of buckets from my GT cars. They are a horrible pain in the *** for normal road driving. PCCBs/ceramics are a must imo. But these are personal choices and otherwise thought your post was spot on. I couldn't care less about resale value as I buy my cars for driving not as an investment but surely there will be certain specs for the Carrera T that are far more desired down the line. We are seeing the senseless specs sit on lots with discounts now.
buckets are definitely not the most comfortable - cant argue - super hard to get in and out, especially with a bad back... but for me - I needed buckets for the T!
04-04-2019, 11:55 AM
#425
To each his own, but Id make a case that if youre thinking about a T the spec is:
RAS
carbon bucket seats (w. rear seat delete)
manual
no sunroof
ceramic brakes (not mandatory but they save a good bit of weight and that is what the T is all about)
These options are key IMO. If you need a sunroof, full leather, pdk, I think better off with the base carrera.
Once you load the T up with heavy sunroof and other options it takes away from the ClubSport throwback Porsche intended.
Porsche wanted to name it "Clubsport" after its spiritual predecessor, the 1987 911 Carrera 3.2 Clubsport, but BMW owns the trademark on that name these days. "T" is what they had left.
I actually think if they could have called it clubsport, or even RS america - it might have really added value to the car.
down the line this T will become a desirable model IMO - limited run of about 1,000 in the US, great car!
Not the most powerful, and certainly not slow, but there is something to be said about driving a slower car fast vs driving a 600hp car slow because you cant open it up on the street without going to jail!
RAS
carbon bucket seats (w. rear seat delete)
manual
no sunroof
ceramic brakes (not mandatory but they save a good bit of weight and that is what the T is all about)
These options are key IMO. If you need a sunroof, full leather, pdk, I think better off with the base carrera.
Once you load the T up with heavy sunroof and other options it takes away from the ClubSport throwback Porsche intended.
Porsche wanted to name it "Clubsport" after its spiritual predecessor, the 1987 911 Carrera 3.2 Clubsport, but BMW owns the trademark on that name these days. "T" is what they had left.
I actually think if they could have called it clubsport, or even RS america - it might have really added value to the car.
down the line this T will become a desirable model IMO - limited run of about 1,000 in the US, great car!
Not the most powerful, and certainly not slow, but there is something to be said about driving a slower car fast vs driving a 600hp car slow because you cant open it up on the street without going to jail!
04-04-2019, 08:52 PM
#426
Does anyone know the true 0-60 times for the carrera T?
porsche claims 4.0
car & driver shows 3.5 / 3.7
The PDK is the quicker of the two, hitting 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, or 0.1 second behind the Carrera PDK. Color us surprised by the Carrera T manual, whose 3.7-second run to 60 mph represents a 0.3-second improvement over the manual-transmission 2017 Carrera.
porsche claims 4.0
car & driver shows 3.5 / 3.7
The PDK is the quicker of the two, hitting 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, or 0.1 second behind the Carrera PDK. Color us surprised by the Carrera T manual, whose 3.7-second run to 60 mph represents a 0.3-second improvement over the manual-transmission 2017 Carrera.
04-04-2019, 10:08 PM
#427
Rennlist Member
the real 0-60 is the best run you can do... with the manual
04-05-2019, 09:37 AM
#428
Does anyone know the true 0-60 times for the carrera T?
porsche claims 4.0
car & driver shows 3.5 / 3.7
The PDK is the quicker of the two, hitting 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, or 0.1 second behind the Carrera PDK. Color us surprised by the Carrera T manual, whose 3.7-second run to 60 mph represents a 0.3-second improvement over the manual-transmission 2017 Carrera.
porsche claims 4.0
car & driver shows 3.5 / 3.7
The PDK is the quicker of the two, hitting 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, or 0.1 second behind the Carrera PDK. Color us surprised by the Carrera T manual, whose 3.7-second run to 60 mph represents a 0.3-second improvement over the manual-transmission 2017 Carrera.
04-05-2019, 10:49 AM
#429
Rennlist Member
The naysayers eat some crow...
https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-porsch...911-1819755457
Bit of a yawner. Marginally lighter with some unique options.
“Power is rated at 370 horses and 339 lb-ft of torque from the 3.0-liter twin-turbo flat six. The T gets a variety of nice tweaks from across the range, including Sport-Tex seats, a rear seat delete option, a new interior package, grey mirror covers, and the 20-inch wheels off the Carrera S.”
Bit of a yawner. Marginally lighter with some unique options.
“Power is rated at 370 horses and 339 lb-ft of torque from the 3.0-liter twin-turbo flat six. The T gets a variety of nice tweaks from across the range, including Sport-Tex seats, a rear seat delete option, a new interior package, grey mirror covers, and the 20-inch wheels off the Carrera S.”
Yes! Here we 18 months down the road and people realizing how great a car is.
04-05-2019, 03:14 PM
#430
when i think of all of the useless threads on the GT3 forum (mostly obsessing over value and flipping) that should have been moved before this one... many GT3 owners have added a Carrera T and some have switched to one, so it's not like it didn't have relevance/merit there. i guess someone complained because the thread was getting too much attention. heaven forbid.
Last edited by Porsch; 05-03-2019 at 12:44 PM.
04-05-2019, 03:18 PM
#431
I traded my 2018 MT GT3 for my T....couldn't be happier. As a track toy the GT3 is phenomenal, but as a fun all around toy car ( Drive to work, Track, pick up Chinese, hit the twisty back roads etc) the T is my favorite Porsche of any I've owned.
04-10-2019, 11:37 PM
#432
Race Car
Bought my GT3 and thought the T was a gimmick...now I own one. LoL
04-10-2019, 11:44 PM
#433
After owning a winged .2 GT3, a new .2 RS, and a T, I can tell you how great the T is, especially if you had a tune on the T to wake up that turbo motor, and those tiny turbos spool up really fast. Handling of the car is sublime also.
04-11-2019, 01:45 AM
#434
thats just funny. Guessing you arent one of those owners. I have multiple 911s and they are such complete different cars you wouldnt trade one for the other. Maybe to Ferrari or M. Maybe.
04-11-2019, 07:21 AM
#435