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Guys.
Still on my first P, still learning.
I have a base 991 with pasm and 20 inch wheels.
How does the 911 GTS compare? Is the ride quality the same with the same wheel / tire combination?
Thanks.

cajerseyboy

First drive one. Then decide. Talk won't help.

mikex25

The same as an S with SPASM.

mrmojom3

Are you sure this is true? SPASM is not standard on a GTS.

So if you have an S w SPASM. And a GTS with no SPASM. Then why would a GTS with no SPASM ride the same as an S w/ SPASM?

mrmojom3

I'm interested as well. However there are no GTS anywhere near me to drive to compare. Using the forum is helpful to get others feedback.

cajerseyboy

I 100% agree, you will most likely get several responses on what the differences are but there is zero connection between that info and the actual driving experience for YOU.

A better way may be to see if any rennlisters have one in your area for you to take a drive in. I'm in the Bay Area and didn't see your location but I would be willing to help you out if you wanted to take a test drive.

9ELOVIN

You are going to have to drive one. Ride quality is a very subjective subject and what is comfortable to me may not be comfortable to you and vice versa. I recently sold my 2006 Carrera 4S Cab. I now have a couple of hundred miles on my 2018 Carrera 4 GTS Coupe. Here is the build: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1013...-gts-coup.html

To me, in normal mode, the GTS feels like a stiff luxury sedan. The ride is far more comfortable then my cab. In sport mode, it stiffens up but the car is solid as a rock. As you can see from my build, however, the car has PDCC. While that is a ride leveling system it is also a Comfort System. The bottom line is that unless you are looking for a plush ride, you will love the right of the GTS. You will also love its capabilities. Hope this helps.

Ira Blumberg

At least in the US, SPASM is standard on the coupe GTS models (2 & 4). You can option for PASM instead, but that is an option.


Thus, I agree, you can get a good feel for the GTS coupe ride if you can find and test an S coupe with SPASM. Also try to find one with PDCC as this definitely helps the ride quality.

Ira Blumberg

I agree completely. I have a C4 GTS with SPASM & PDCC. I leave it in sport mode. It is no firmer than the M4 I used to drive and at least for me, it is entirely comfortable even on some mediocre roads.

flickroll

I don't think this is correct. SPASM is included on the 2018 GTS according to this option which is about selecting PASM (not SPASM), and came from the configurator:


Standard Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) (10 mm lower)

Note: Selection of this option removes PASM Sport Suspension (20 mm lower) which is fitted as standard equipment on the 911 Carrera GTS coupe models.

mikex25

+1 on this, SPASM is standard except on Targas.

GSIRM3

And cabs

mrmojom3

So to make sure I'm clear. I'm shopping 15 / 16 GTS. I do NOT want SPASM. I have it on my 14 4S and its too stiff for me.

So when I'm pulling build sheets, I see some 991.1 GTS where SPASM is listed. And some do not list SPASM. Thus I assumed it had to be added. You are saying SPASM is standard on all 991.1 unless its specifically stated on the build sheet or sticker "PASM" option.

I remember reading some threads where 991.1 GTS guys were mad they didnt opt for SPASM on the GTS.

Here's an example. Does the following 991.1 GTS have SPASM? I dont see it listed. But other 991.1 GTS build sheets specifically state SPASM.

I have a deposit on a 991.1 GTS under the assumption that it didnt have SPASM. I will need to cancel my GTS search if this is indeed true!!

You can see in the pics I posted. SPASM is specifically called out as a line item. In the GTS I'm looking at, there is no mention of SPASM on the build sheet or the window sticker. Thus I assumed SPASM was an optional add on for the 991.1 GTS.

mrmojom3

I can attach more build sheets. Some state SPASM so do not.

I'm using Chrome and the insert tool for the forum isnt working for me, so I cannot post them.

mrmojom3

All the reviews state GTS includes PASM active suspension not Sport PASM. Even Edmunds lists SPASM as an option for the 15 GTS

https://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/...eatures-specs/

I see the code 030 - PASM Sport Suspension listed on many build sheets. Why would that code be listed on some build sheets, but not others if its standard?

All the info I can find on the 17 GTS states Sport PASM is standard.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rsche-911-gts/

Can anybody show me documentation where it states the 991.1 GTS includes Sport PASM as standard? I need to cancel a flight I was about to book today to pick up a GTS


Again, I'm not looking to debate or disagree, but get my facts straight. Thanks guys.