Which car? 991, 997.2, or 981
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Why not track a 993? Other than the lack of nannies, there is nothing stopping you from tracking a stock 993 and having a lot of fun. Sure, you won't be as fast as a 997 or 991, but fastest isn't always the most fun.
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If you're changing anyway in 2 years, I'd start with a well-depreciated 981S or GTS. Why?
There's a nice emotional "hit" from getting your first Porsche. Mine was with an early Boxster. I was moving over from the Alfa Spyder and modified Miata world. I was tickled with that Boxster. Drove the crap out of it. It kept me very happy for a good while. And as said above, the vast majority of commentators I ever encountered simply said something like, "Nice Porsh, man!"
When I left the mid-engine fold for 911s I had a few of them, including Turbos and a 991 GTS. But none of them gave me that "First Porsche" hit, cuz none of them were my First Porsche. So if you can get that with any Porsche, and you're planning to change anyway, why not enjoy a middie first time around. Who knows, you might like it so much you stay in that camp rather than going 911 anyway. (I just returned to a middie 5 weeks ago. Loving it!)
There's a nice emotional "hit" from getting your first Porsche. Mine was with an early Boxster. I was moving over from the Alfa Spyder and modified Miata world. I was tickled with that Boxster. Drove the crap out of it. It kept me very happy for a good while. And as said above, the vast majority of commentators I ever encountered simply said something like, "Nice Porsh, man!"
When I left the mid-engine fold for 911s I had a few of them, including Turbos and a 991 GTS. But none of them gave me that "First Porsche" hit, cuz none of them were my First Porsche. So if you can get that with any Porsche, and you're planning to change anyway, why not enjoy a middie first time around. Who knows, you might like it so much you stay in that camp rather than going 911 anyway. (I just returned to a middie 5 weeks ago. Loving it!)
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Something else to consider.
With a 991.1, it's still possible to get a CPO'd car, which means you get the OEM warranty. Nice to have.
This is not possible with a 997.2
With a 991.1, it's still possible to get a CPO'd car, which means you get the OEM warranty. Nice to have.
This is not possible with a 997.2
#22
Each person has their own risk level. When I participate in DE track events, I push my car to nearly 100%, sometimes inadvertently to 101%, and I just don't feel comfortable pushing any 20+year old car that hard. To me a 993 is a great car for the street where you may push it to 80% occasionally. OTH if there were a tech that I really trusted and he gave his OK to a specific 993 for track use, I may reconsider.
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Originally Posted by BlackBeauty
On the 991.1 manual the upshift between second and third gear is problematic. Porsche fixed this with the GTS and and later cars, plus the gears are tall for the street since it shares its gearing with the PDK. I've had both series and clearly the 991 is more comfortable, faster and refined, but I think the 997 has a better MT - six vs. seven gears and with hydraulic steering is going to give you a different driving experience. Drive both, there's a reason why the secondary market is so strong- it's been said before but it's true, sometimes Porsche's biggest competitor is itself.
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However, if you want a manual and you want to buy now, a 997.2S is a fantastic car. One of the great bargains today, IMHO. It's got the 991S 9A1 motor and almost all of the performance at a significant discount, and it's toward the bottom of the depreciation curve. Would much prefer one over a base 991.
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I'm gonna go against the grain and say a 997.2 S.
Get the S. You want the torque.
Also, I am finding the 991.1 is slightly less engaging than the 997's I drove. Having said that, the rear seats are far more usable, especially in the cab, and the fit and finish is miles above. But the steering and gearbox in the 997 are just more engaging and the whole car feels lighter and more nimble. The experience will be noticeably more raw than the 991.
Get the S. You want the torque.
Also, I am finding the 991.1 is slightly less engaging than the 997's I drove. Having said that, the rear seats are far more usable, especially in the cab, and the fit and finish is miles above. But the steering and gearbox in the 997 are just more engaging and the whole car feels lighter and more nimble. The experience will be noticeably more raw than the 991.
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This was my reaction as well. I have never had an issue with the upshift from 2nd to 3rd; in fact, I really like the 7 speed manual overall. I am not saying it is better than the 997 6 speed, but the 7 speed is an excellent manual transmission in its own right.
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Agree with this -- plus in another year you'll have a lot more options when it comes to less-expensive 991S's.
However, if you want a manual and you want to buy now, a 997.2S is a fantastic car. One of the great bargains today, IMHO. It's got the 991S 9A1 motor and almost all of the performance at a significant discount, and it's toward the bottom of the depreciation curve. Would much prefer one over a base 991.
However, if you want a manual and you want to buy now, a 997.2S is a fantastic car. One of the great bargains today, IMHO. It's got the 991S 9A1 motor and almost all of the performance at a significant discount, and it's toward the bottom of the depreciation curve. Would much prefer one over a base 991.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Save additional funds for 12 more months, and buy a 991S. Continue to track/paly with the Golf R.
As much as I love the 993 I would want one as my second Porsche not my primary one. 991.1 is very reliable and will check all the boxes. Don't settle just to put one in the garage quickly.