The New 911

Just to keep it short I used the configurator to build a 991TT and a 991TTS with the exact options. The following is the results.

911TT $195,385
911TTS $210,920

The Delta being the price of a Fiat 500. $15,535

Now someone can think of buying a 911 TT with every option you ever wanted. Or someone could buy the 911 TTS on a budget.

But the bottom line is all the options for the 911TT is $43290. With the exact options since Porsche throws in so many freebies and reduced priced options for the TTS. Exact same options for the 911TTS $27225!

So if you were going to buy a 911TT with $43K+ in options and a Fiat 500 just forego the Fiat and buy the 911TTS plus $27,225 for the options. People can't look at the purchase price of the 911TT and the 911TTS as it takes analysis to see where THE deal is. That is if you can spend a little more... Calling $15,535 a little more. For 99% of American's that is a ludicrous notion.

wrs

You mean with the same options? Then you need to figure out how to add 40hp to the TT and Ceramic Brakes. The latter will cost $10,000+ and the former can't be done unless you go aftermarket. But it doesn't really matter if you are satisfied with what the TT offers. Get it instead of the TTS. Or better yet, get a used TTS for less than a new TT all decked out.

Need4S

Interesting. I always thought the TT was more expensive if optioned up to match a similar TTS. Instead the TTS is about $15.5k more. So what that buys you is the added HP and torque of the TTS engine, I guess.

FBA

And the TTS badging...

The New 911

Well good point on the PCCB's. Then there are the 18 way seats that come in for free too. Burmeister or however it is spelled is only $3500 for both Turbo's I believe. Now you have piqued my interest. Just wish I had a work spreadsheet program for analysis.

speed21

Looking at the car configurator the TTS does appear to be @15k higher. Turbo S's badges and additional power aside (hard to overlook), historically a vehicles options yield little return upon resale. THAT is the main sticking point.

wrs

PCCB are not an option for TTS but are for TT. He said same options so he forgot to include the PCCB to the TT which would have made the delta only about $5k and that is basically the 40hp tune plus the better seats.

I had my eye on this guy which was offering at $156k in the summer of 2014 and sold new for $185k, it was a TT but someone else got to it. It had Burmester, PCCB and a decked out interior in black. I really liked it but couldn't swing it at the time but two months later I got my TTS with a lot more stuff for $157k.

The New 911

So then I should add in the cost of PCCB, even though I would not order them myself on a normal TT? Seems fair.

wrs

Yes, they are stock on the TTS and obviously that guy wanted them. He also bought mahogany trim while mine is carbon fiber, a more popular option. No accounting for taste but if you buy from the lot, you take what was ordered whether by an individual or the dealer.

FastLaneTurbo

I'm not a big fan of the TTS Centerlock Wheels or PCCB brakes ($30K replacement costs) but when I add
Sports 'Chrono and PDCC to a TT, the TTS difference is prox $20K. If you want ALL the TTS's features on your TT, it would be over $40K in TT options - so you would save about $10K by spending another $30K and ordering a TTS. You would also get a "Free" 40 HP additional.

speed21

I think you made the right move there. The red one looks nice too but at only 1000 less than the tts it will be worth significantly less when resale comes around. Plus as you point out it also has 40 less hp which can certainly be felt when you are on it. Also the mahogany would be a "minority like" in comparison to the carbon interior of the stock tts.

I would agree the PDCC and SC are really worthwhile options especially if you plan tracking it or going on spirited drives with friends. In many ways the PDCC brings the handling and firmness into line with the 991GT3, which in the tt is somewhat lost in the sports mode with PDDC off. or no PDCC. It is still good in sports , but noticeably better with PDDC on....no roll and firmer everywhere. So yeah I would tick that box for sure on a base tt over a lot of other things. No doubt the steels will be more economical to run on the track and the 5 bolt having more AM wheel options. I guess it all comes down to how you plan using the car.

The New 911

So with the 18 way seats and the PCCBs that's $10,335 credit toward that $15K in savings.

But there is one huge caveat in this discussion. This whole excercise assumes you will pretty much deck out the car with most of the leather options, except that $8k option which doesnt make sense.

And unfortunately the BHP is immeasurable. How much would it cost to get 40 extra BHP added to your car? Its going to be greater than the difference between the PCCBs and the 18 way seats to the TTS!

And for Resale, let Ferrari Owner's worry about resale. Porsche's were made to be driven not collected. How much do you think Mr Bean, Rowan Atkins, wil get for his gently used McLaren F1? I am playing devil's advocate at the moment so no need for tempers.

PS... I added in the price for the 18 way seats with my calculations which is reciprocal. Just needed to add in the price of the PCCB's.

And another question does the Turbo S have the Sport Rearview mirrors?

FBA

Once you go to the PCCB's, you won't want anything else, not even for 10K less.

Tony007

I made this TT vs TTS comparison before and used the builder to build two identical loaded cars. In the end, the only difference was the power output and the cost difference was around 3.5-4k

The New 911

Never had the pleasure Sir of PCCB's. That and never had the pleasure to Track PCCB's which you can really sink y`alls teeF into.

Many track day guys prefer the non PCCB configurations due to cost to fix the replacemnt. That and running PCCBs with traction control during a track day has made for a bad out come back in the 997.1/.2 days. That's why there is a replacement for your PCCB to Steel thread in the 997 forums.