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Old 10-19-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche View Post
Short life cycle on the 991 is the reason. That's why we have Turbo S, Targa, GT3, GT3RS, GT2, GT2 RS all coming out very soon.
By short life cycle, you mean shorter than 997 prior to the mid cycle refresh? When are you expecting the 991.2 will show up?
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:37 PM
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By short life cycle, you mean shorter than 997 prior to the mid cycle refresh? When are you expecting the 991.2 will show up?
2016 for 2017 model year at the moment.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander View Post
I thought it odd too. Maybe they thought the appetite for 200k turbos would be greatest at the launch. If they waited a year a lot of the demand would be filled by a standard turbo.
I think this is spot on, hence the historically sluggish turbo s sales on all past models. Just a different sales strategy.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:55 AM
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I am thinking all the guys who have "deposits" with think long and hard when they get a call with their rep saying, time to pony up - " oh and your lease payment is $ 3000,00/ month! hence converting to a legitimate order. We all feel the iterations of the 911 TT were/ are amazing - everyday supercar - and have been historically tremendous value for dollar...now the value IS getting into supercar territory. In Canada here $ 225,000 nicely equipped before 13% tax....ouch! Think a moment about the market for a $ 140,000.00 'used 911 TT ' in three or four years....not appealing. I want one but this $ 200K ceiling has stalled me...and I love my 993tt....but I really like the 991tt....but $ 255K ..... More therapy required....
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Overdraft View Post
I am thinking all the guys who have "deposits" with think long and hard when they get a call with their rep saying, time to pony up - " oh and your lease payment is $ 3000,00/ month! hence converting to a legitimate order. We all feel the iterations of the 911 TT were/ are amazing - everyday supercar - and have been historically tremendous value for dollar...now the value IS getting into supercar territory. In Canada here $ 225,000 nicely equipped before 13% tax....ouch! Think a moment about the market for a $ 140,000.00 'used 911 TT ' in three or four years....not appealing. I want one but this $ 200K ceiling has stalled me...and I love my 993tt....but I really like the 991tt....but $ 255K ..... More therapy required....
I do agree that it got pretty expensive, but IMO it still is a bargain. Try to find a car with that performance, build quality, versatillity for that money.... Not much out there.
And I'm saying that, while a nicely equipped non-S Turbo costs about $290k over here and a base Turbo S is $307k (8% VAT included).

In fact, I think that both the GT3 and the Turbo S are the best priced 911s at this moment. (Especially the GT3, that is a real bargain in most markets)

Still... It is a lot of money for a car if course, but I think they're worth it.

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Old 10-20-2013, 08:58 PM
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I don't think it's a bargain or value. I think it's just something you do I if you can want to. 170 to 200k is a lot of money. I ordered one, will be writing a check for an can afford it, but don't find much value, just fun.
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:27 AM
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I think the Turbo S is a darn good deal relative to other 911s.

I just configured my dream 911 C2S, which includes all the go-fast goodies (including the Power Kit), the Burmester, and some other options. $165k.

By comparison, the Turbo S I have on order, configured the same way, MSRPs at 194k. And for that extra 29k I get, among other things:
  • an interior color combination I like way more
  • slightly larger gas tank
  • wider rear track and body panels to house it
  • wider rear tires
  • Reversing Camera
  • active aero dynamics fore-and-aft
  • All wheel drive
  • Four wheel steering
  • 130 extra horsepower
  • 228 extra pound feet of torque

To me, the items on that list (especially the last two) more than justify the extra cost and the other penalties (primarily the increase in weight and slight decrease in frunk size).
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by carcommander View Post
I don't think it's a bargain or value. I think it's just something you do I if you can want to. 170 to 200k is a lot of money. I ordered one, will be writing a check for an can afford it, but don't find much value, just fun.
Agree 100% excellent points.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Just J View Post
I think the Turbo S is a darn good deal relative to other 911s.

I just configured my dream 911 C2S, which includes all the go-fast goodies (including the Power Kit), the Burmester, and some other options. $165k.

By comparison, the Turbo S I have on order, configured the same way, MSRPs at 194k. And for that extra 29k I get, among other things:
  • an interior color combination I like way more
  • slightly larger gas tank
  • wider rear track and body panels to house it
  • wider rear tires
  • Reversing Camera
  • active aero dynamics fore-and-aft
  • All wheel drive
  • Four wheel steering
  • 130 extra horsepower
  • 228 extra pound feet of torque

To me, the items on that list (especially the last two) more than justify the extra cost and the other penalties (primarily the increase in weight and slight decrease in frunk size).
I agree that the TTS is a bargain related to the much more expensive company it keeps, performance wise. But it is a toy nonetheless, a complete extravagance.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 991TurboS View Post
I agree that the TTS is a bargain related to the much more expensive company it keeps, performance wise. But it is a toy nonetheless, a complete extravagance.
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That's true of any personal vehicle beyond a basic sedan, minivan, or pick-up truck (depending on your needs). And certainly true of any sports car or high performance car. No one "needs" such a car. Nor do we "need" television, Internet, cell phones, or any of the other myriad items that qualify as "essentials" these days.


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Old 10-21-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Just J View Post
That's true of any personal vehicle beyond a basic sedan, minivan, or pick-up truck (depending on your needs). And certainly true of any sports car or high performance car. No one "needs" such a car. Nor do we "need" television, Internet, cell phones, or any of the other myriad items that qualify as "essentials" these days.


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I'm with you, but big difference between a tv, cell and a $200,000 sports car (at least IMO). A TV, cell phone, internet, allows you to stay connected, safe, and aware of what goes on in the world and conduct your personal business. A Porsche Turbo is a toy, plain and simple.

But nothing wrong with buying any type of luxury performance car if you can afford it. I have always been of the opinion if you are paying your bills ,providing for your family's needs, saving for retirement, etc, then anything extra is just gravy, and you can't take it with you, so go for it.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:21 PM
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Having said all this I think I need one. LOL
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Just J View Post
That's true of any personal vehicle beyond a basic sedan, minivan, or pick-up truck (depending on your needs). And certainly true of any sports car or high performance car. No one "needs" such a car. Nor do we "need" television, Internet, cell phones, or any of the other myriad items that qualify as "essentials" these days.
I'm pretty sure I have a need for speed.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by carcommander View Post
Having said all this I think I need one.
Gravy?
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by C2 Turbo View Post
Gravy?
Exactly.
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