cbpdpm

I have been considering buying a used 2012 Turbo S. It just occurred to me that a new 991 Turbo would be close in price. My dealer has a Turbo S allocation available (out of my price range!). Does anyone know if Turbo allocations are available and when the finished car would be delivered in the US?
Thanks in advance

tomshop

My dealer told me the same thing. Sounds like PCNA is pushing out the higher margin Turbo S' first.

shawsan

Not sure what country you're from, but there's no way a used 2012 Turbo S costs anything like a 991 Turbo S.

First point; in the US, you can get a good 2012 Turbo S coupe for $135K that includes about $20 K options. Sold new that would have been $164K + $20K (option) = 184K. A 991 Turbo S with 20K options will cost $184K+ $20K = $204K. So, getting a 2012 997 Turbo S will save you about $65K.

Second point; a 997 Turbo S brings a bit of exclusivity coming at the end of the 997 turbo production run. Not so for the 991 turbo S. Porsche is going to flood the market with 991 Turbo S's in pursuit of its goal of selling 220,000 units. That's why they're pushing the Turbo S's now, right off the bat. Expect gen. 2 and 3 turbo S's. That means a 991 Turbo S will plunge in value even more than a 997 Turbo S. Expect a $50K depreciation after one year of ownership.

Third, yes you get the evolutionary,not revolutionary benefits of a 991 Turbo or Turbo S over the 997 model. But make a checklist of all the things that are almost the same between the two cars and then ask yourself: do I really want to fork out $65K more more a 991 Turbo/S than a 997 model and then enjoy a $50K depreciation in one year. Some of those similarities, IMHO, include a car that is really hard to tell apart except if yr. a true porschophile, similar 3.8 engines. 7 spd. PDK trans, similar HP and TQ, similar center lock wheels, and so on.

Hope these kinds of reflections prove helpful. Best of luck in yr. choice.

Bford100

cbpdpm I have a 2012 Turbo S considering selling if you are interested send me a PM

carcommander

They have Turbo allocations. They may already be spoken for. I sold a 997 turbo after I bought my 991S. Drive a 991 and see what you think. I have had mine 1.5 years and love it. I have a 991 turbo not S on order. Porsche will not sell that many turbos. How many 165 plus cars can they sell?

Rennteam

In Germany, the 991 Turbo S comes first (end of September/early October), then comes the 991 Turbo (around November). US availability should be shortly after these particular dates.

tcsracing1

i think they should drop the "S" line and just make all the models as good as the "S".

In terms of 2012 997 turbo S vs new 991 TT non S, id have to say that the 2012 997 turbo S will start dropping in price because it is too close to 991 TT pricing.
Kinda reminds me of the 2005 996 turbo cab pricing when 997 hit the market however this time the new Turbo S is right on top of the old Turbo S!

Unless your 997 Turbo S is a manual it will have a hard time selling along side of new 991 turbos.

neanicu

997.2 Turbo S are PDK only.

carcommander

Last years cars are always worth less than this years cars. Sigh.

tcsracing1

Bingo