O.K. So what are the real numbers?
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O.K. So what are the real numbers?
We all know many manufacturers under-rate the performance numbers on their vehicles for insurance purposes.
The last iterations of the Turbo and Turbo S could easily hit 0 - 60 m.p.h. marks of 3.0 - 2.6 (!!!) With Sport Chrono+ and double clutch technology. As we all know thats just one tenth of a mile per hour of matching the mighty million dollar Bugatti Veyron!
But now I want to know from reliable sources what the new 991 models can jiggle down the tarmac to 60 miles per hour?
With that I imagine that the engineers at Porsche have beefed up the new PDK since the new 991 Turbo S has a normal 560 BHP all day long not including Sport Chron+.
I'm just wondering if the new 991 Turbo S with Sport Chrono+ and Launch control will at least match the Veyrons 0 - 60 times of 2.5 seconds. I would NOT be surprised if the plain Jain 991 Twin Turbo could do the 0 - 60 m.p.h dance in close to 2.6!!!
Any input? What is y'alls thought on the matter?
Also P.S. I was beyond surprised that Porsche was going to releas the "S" version along side the "NORMAL" Model. Must be A new Papal Bull from VW. Which is starting to make many of us Porschphiles confuse-ered!!!
The last iterations of the Turbo and Turbo S could easily hit 0 - 60 m.p.h. marks of 3.0 - 2.6 (!!!) With Sport Chrono+ and double clutch technology. As we all know thats just one tenth of a mile per hour of matching the mighty million dollar Bugatti Veyron!
But now I want to know from reliable sources what the new 991 models can jiggle down the tarmac to 60 miles per hour?
With that I imagine that the engineers at Porsche have beefed up the new PDK since the new 991 Turbo S has a normal 560 BHP all day long not including Sport Chron+.
I'm just wondering if the new 991 Turbo S with Sport Chrono+ and Launch control will at least match the Veyrons 0 - 60 times of 2.5 seconds. I would NOT be surprised if the plain Jain 991 Twin Turbo could do the 0 - 60 m.p.h dance in close to 2.6!!!
Any input? What is y'alls thought on the matter?
Also P.S. I was beyond surprised that Porsche was going to releas the "S" version along side the "NORMAL" Model. Must be A new Papal Bull from VW. Which is starting to make many of us Porschphiles confuse-ered!!!
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Clientele obsessing over 0-60 numbers and Ring lap times are directly responsible for the direction at Porsche. Myriad techno gadgets and driver aids at the expense of the driving experience. I'm sure you'll get your 2.5 second bragging rights, don't worry, Porsche knows what you want and they won't let you down. Soon there will be a button on the dash that will engage launch control, take off when the light turns green, flash the hazard lights signifying your victory, and then the value of your stock portfolio will scroll across an LED strip on the rear window.
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We all know many manufacturers under-rate the performance numbers on their vehicles for insurance purposes.
The last iterations of the Turbo and Turbo S could easily hit 0 - 60 m.p.h. marks of 3.0 - 2.6 (!!!) With Sport Chrono+ and double clutch technology. As we all know thats just one tenth of a mile per hour of matching the mighty million dollar Bugatti Veyron!
But now I want to know from reliable sources what the new 991 models can jiggle down the tarmac to 60 miles per hour?
With that I imagine that the engineers at Porsche have beefed up the new PDK since the new 991 Turbo S has a normal 560 BHP all day long not including Sport Chron+.
I'm just wondering if the new 991 Turbo S with Sport Chrono+ and Launch control will at least match the Veyrons 0 - 60 times of 2.5 seconds. I would NOT be surprised if the plain Jain 991 Twin Turbo could do the 0 - 60 m.p.h dance in close to 2.6!!!
Any input? What is y'alls thought on the matter?
Also P.S. I was beyond surprised that Porsche was going to releas the "S" version along side the "NORMAL" Model. Must be A new Papal Bull from VW. Which is starting to make many of us Porschphiles confuse-ered!!!
The last iterations of the Turbo and Turbo S could easily hit 0 - 60 m.p.h. marks of 3.0 - 2.6 (!!!) With Sport Chrono+ and double clutch technology. As we all know thats just one tenth of a mile per hour of matching the mighty million dollar Bugatti Veyron!
But now I want to know from reliable sources what the new 991 models can jiggle down the tarmac to 60 miles per hour?
With that I imagine that the engineers at Porsche have beefed up the new PDK since the new 991 Turbo S has a normal 560 BHP all day long not including Sport Chron+.
I'm just wondering if the new 991 Turbo S with Sport Chrono+ and Launch control will at least match the Veyrons 0 - 60 times of 2.5 seconds. I would NOT be surprised if the plain Jain 991 Twin Turbo could do the 0 - 60 m.p.h dance in close to 2.6!!!
Any input? What is y'alls thought on the matter?
Also P.S. I was beyond surprised that Porsche was going to releas the "S" version along side the "NORMAL" Model. Must be A new Papal Bull from VW. Which is starting to make many of us Porschphiles confuse-ered!!!
Yeah, I too am interested in seeing what the magazine tests reveal about the 0-60 and 0-100 mph times for the 991 Turbo S.
As you said, I also recall a 2.6 sec 0-60 test result for the 997 Turbo S(whereas Porsche listed the time at 3.1 sec). Considering Porsche lists the new Turbo S 0-60 time at 2.9 seconds, that would put the independent tests(assuming the same time differential) for the new Turbo S at 2.4 sec. If the new Turbo S does in fact achieve this time, it would be truly epic for a stock production car(especially in this price range).
Even the new hypercars(918, La Ferrari, P1) are not going to approach these times.
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Well, I heard that some test mules achieved 2.7 sec. from 0-62 mph and 9.7 seconds from 0-125 mph. The official performance figures for the Turbo S are 0-62 mph in 3.1 seconds and 0-125 mph in 10.3 seconds.
Actually the new 991 Turbo S is "officially" 0.3 seconds faster than the "old" 997 Turbo S from 0-125 mph and 0.2 seconds from 0-62 mph. In a couple of reviews, the "old" 997 Turbo S achieved 0-62 mph in 3.1 seconds and 0-125 mph in 10 seconds flat and 10.1 or 10.3 seconds. So assuming that the new 991 Turbo S achieves a similar performance (slightly better than manufacturer claim), I'd say that 2.8-2.9 seconds from 0-62 mph and 9.8-9.9 seconds from 0-125 mph are quite realistic.
Actually the new 991 Turbo S is "officially" 0.3 seconds faster than the "old" 997 Turbo S from 0-125 mph and 0.2 seconds from 0-62 mph. In a couple of reviews, the "old" 997 Turbo S achieved 0-62 mph in 3.1 seconds and 0-125 mph in 10 seconds flat and 10.1 or 10.3 seconds. So assuming that the new 991 Turbo S achieves a similar performance (slightly better than manufacturer claim), I'd say that 2.8-2.9 seconds from 0-62 mph and 9.8-9.9 seconds from 0-125 mph are quite realistic.
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0-60 times for the 997 Turbo S were 2.6 secs (Road & Track), 2.7 (Car & Driver), 2.8 (Motor Trend). The 997 Turbo S is so fast it almost doesn't make any sense trying to add more HP/TQ.
I also can't imagine the acceleration achieved by the 991 Turbo or Turbo S (.1 second?) will feel any faster than for the 997 Turbo S, and it'll be almost impossible to make use of the additional acceleration (if there is any) on normal roads, let alone the majority of road tracks. Moreover, all one has to do to a 997 Turbo S is add headers, cats and a freeflow muffler (with no ECU tune) and the result will be the same HP and more torque than a stock 991 Turbo S.
Now the benefit of the rear turning wheels on the 991 Turbo S will make a notable difference to the Turbo's classic understeer/oversteer nemisis (understeer geting the car into corners, oversteer if one turns the wheel to hard to 'correct for' the understeer). IOW the 991 Turbo S will outperform the 997 Turbo S at the limit on the track.
I also can't imagine the acceleration achieved by the 991 Turbo or Turbo S (.1 second?) will feel any faster than for the 997 Turbo S, and it'll be almost impossible to make use of the additional acceleration (if there is any) on normal roads, let alone the majority of road tracks. Moreover, all one has to do to a 997 Turbo S is add headers, cats and a freeflow muffler (with no ECU tune) and the result will be the same HP and more torque than a stock 991 Turbo S.
Now the benefit of the rear turning wheels on the 991 Turbo S will make a notable difference to the Turbo's classic understeer/oversteer nemisis (understeer geting the car into corners, oversteer if one turns the wheel to hard to 'correct for' the understeer). IOW the 991 Turbo S will outperform the 997 Turbo S at the limit on the track.
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