991 TTS or 992 TTS
#16
The 991 has a long list of owners with amazing performance on built motors running 8's etc. That's not for me. I'm a stock motor/trans guy and still running stock turbos too - my car is in the 9s at 145+ even on stock turbos with meth and pump gas - that's good enough for me.
Particularly since your initial question starts out within a context of "relative value" between the two models and "is it worth it", and the fact that you're asking the question tells me this isnt a trivial expense so you have to decide if what the 992 brings to the table is worth it to you (regardless of mods or no mods).
Good luck either way and let us know what you decide.
#17
Performance-wise, there is a benefit to the .2 version as the cylinder heads and fuel system, as well as turbos, have been upgraded a little bit.
Based on my understanding, there's probably about 50-70hp wheel hp difference on stock turbos maxed out, mod for mod between the .1 & .2, from what I've seen posted around here.
That translates into about an extra 3-5 or so mph trap speed in the 1/4 mile with both setups near max effort.
If you don't plan on running a max effort stock turbo setup, either a .1 or .2 is a great choice for a nice, quick and responsive driver.
Here's a great older thread to read, not sure if you have seen it but it discusses much of what you are interested in finding out.
It's one professional shop's results but gives you an idea of the actual potential difference between .1 & .2 versions of the same car with similar mods.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...y-records.html
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K996 (05-07-2024)
#18
Reliability, handling or quality...negligible differences overall, IMO.
Performance-wise, there is a benefit to the .2 version as the cylinder heads and fuel system, as well as turbos, have been upgraded a little bit.
Based on my understanding, there's probably about 50-70hp wheel hp difference on stock turbos maxed out, mod for mod between the .1 & .2, from what I've seen posted around here.
That translates into about an extra 3-5 or so mph trap speed in the 1/4 mile with both setups near max effort.
If you don't plan on running a max effort stock turbo setup, either a .1 or .2 is a great choice for a nice, quick and responsive driver.
Here's a great older thread to read, not sure if you have seen it but it discusses much of what you are interested in finding out.
It's one professional shop's results but gives you an idea of the actual potential difference between .1 & .2 versions of the same car with similar mods.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...y-records.html
Performance-wise, there is a benefit to the .2 version as the cylinder heads and fuel system, as well as turbos, have been upgraded a little bit.
Based on my understanding, there's probably about 50-70hp wheel hp difference on stock turbos maxed out, mod for mod between the .1 & .2, from what I've seen posted around here.
That translates into about an extra 3-5 or so mph trap speed in the 1/4 mile with both setups near max effort.
If you don't plan on running a max effort stock turbo setup, either a .1 or .2 is a great choice for a nice, quick and responsive driver.
Here's a great older thread to read, not sure if you have seen it but it discusses much of what you are interested in finding out.
It's one professional shop's results but gives you an idea of the actual potential difference between .1 & .2 versions of the same car with similar mods.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...y-records.html
For me, the aesthetics were mostly a wash. The .2s look great and you can see the step toward the 992 aesthetic, but I also like the classic look of the .1.
The updated steering wheel is easy to do, especially if you don't care about the mode selector on the wheel (which is not a huge deal IMO, but can be done). For $2k all in and a 30 min job, I had a new 991.2 sport wheel and airbag.
Lastly, there are some good options on the market for a CarPlay swap. I went with the Mr.12Volt because it has the best audio quality. The install wasn't terrible (though I'd recommend two people to get the unit in/out of the car), and it has worked flawlessly for me.
Bottom line, if you don't care about the additional margin of HP that comes with the .2 or the aesthetics, you can save a lot of money by going with a .2 with some well-placed mods.
#19
Who knows. Rumors are that the 992.2 line is a combination of turbos, hybrids and NA. Some speculating that the Turbo S will not be hybrid but the GT2RS will be..... who knows for sure! I guess I will when my number comes up. Regardless of powertrain, the 992.2 TTS will be new and whatever it is will be enough for me to buy it built exactly the way I want it.
The 991 has a long list of owners with amazing performance on built motors running 8's etc. That's not for me. I'm a stock motor/trans guy and still running stock turbos too - my car is in the 9s at 145+ even on stock turbos with meth and pump gas - that's good enough for me.
The 991 has a long list of owners with amazing performance on built motors running 8's etc. That's not for me. I'm a stock motor/trans guy and still running stock turbos too - my car is in the 9s at 145+ even on stock turbos with meth and pump gas - that's good enough for me.
#20
Any of the top shops here can get you set up with an engine upgrade.
I had previously planned to have AIM do mine.
Generally, rods, maybe wrist pins, maybe head studs but a fairly simple upgrade, not inexpensive, however.
Some people go pistons, 4.0 liter, etc but one can get to the 1,000whp level without those things.
Keep in mind that most folks running at that power level have upgraded intake manifolds as well to support the increase boost levels necessary for huge power.
All my comments are based on what I have observed and from conversations I have had with others, so if anyone here has any other info to share, please do, I'm not the guru, just an avid enthusiast.
Last edited by vrybad; 05-08-2024 at 04:48 AM.
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onfireTTS (05-08-2024)
#21
mighty build
best bang for the buck IMO is a 2014-2017 TTS with AIM's ES 750, ES 850, or ES 1250+
#22
Yep
I think the 991.1 TT is the best value proposition on the 991 platform. With the lowest starting price point (easily found a 991.1 TT with clean title/no accidents/low miles for $100K), you can pick and choose which *upgrades* mean the most to you and select from an impressive list of options - including the shop you want to partner with on your build.
#23
...Here's a great older thread to read, not sure if you have seen it but it discusses much of what you are interested in finding out.
It's one professional shop's results but gives you an idea of the actual potential difference between .1 & .2 versions of the same car with similar mods.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...y-records.html
It's one professional shop's results but gives you an idea of the actual potential difference between .1 & .2 versions of the same car with similar mods.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-turb...y-records.html
That thread is so awesome, I just had to re-read everything in there again.
#24
I think the 991.1 TT is the best value proposition on the 991 platform. With the lowest starting price point (easily found a 991.1 TT with clean title/no accidents/low miles for $100K), you can pick and choose which *upgrades* mean the most to you and select from an impressive list of options - including the shop you want to partner with on your build.
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Pb Pedis (05-09-2024)