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Old 02-16-2023 | 06:17 PM
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Hey Everyone!

I have found a new deal I would like everyone's opinion on.
$159,995
2017 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe AWD - $159,995 (undefined)
Mileage: 28,602

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/349741454

MSRP was 200k, and has an aftermarket Kline Exhaust.
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If you like the color, it is a "okay" deal IMO. I paid less for a car with more options, and 2 set of wheels, tint, radar, PPF, etc etc. So there are better deals out there, but if you really want that color, go for it.

Ohh wait, that isn't even a S. I paid $152k for a Turbo S with 21" HREs and all sorts of extras. That seems high for a non-S.
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Originally Posted by Tormeno
Hey Everyone!

I have found a new deal I would like everyone's opinion on.
$159,995
2017 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe AWD - $159,995 (undefined)
Mileage: 28,602

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/349741454

MSRP was 200k, and has an aftermarket Kline Exhaust.
Extremely overpriced and you'll lose your ***.
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Originally Posted by Kyrosnick
If you like the color, it is a "okay" deal IMO. I paid less for a car with more options, and 2 set of wheels, tint, radar, PPF, etc etc. So there are better deals out there, but if you really want that color, go for it.

Ohh wait, that isn't even a S. I paid $152k for a Turbo S with 21" HREs and all sorts of extras. That seems high for a non-S.
It is an S they somehow listed it wrong
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Go to the dealer website and you’ll see that it is actually a Turbo S. On that basis it’s probably not an outrageous asking price. Only regret is that it isn’t a CPO car.

Also, one of the pics on the dealer site shows an “engine fault” message in the instrument panel. I’d want to know what that was about before I started serious discussions with the dealer.

FWIW, I just literally 2 days back purchased a 2017 TTS, CPO, for $144k. Had a bit higher miles at just under 40k, but fully documented service history and CPO got me over that hump.
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Go to the dealer website and you’ll see that it is actually a Turbo S. On that basis it’s probably not an outrageous asking price. Only regret is that it isn’t a CPO car.

Also, one of the pics on the dealer site shows an “engine fault” message in the instrument panel. I’d want to know what that was about before I started serious discussions with the dealer.

FWIW, I just literally 2 days back purchased a 2017 TTS, CPO, for $144k. Had a bit higher miles at just under 40k, but fully documented service history and CPO got me over that hump.
it has the aftermarket kline exhaust that's why the code popped up but you got one hell of a deal tbh. Really struggling to find those good *** deals you guys always seem to find
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it has the aftermarket kline exhaust that's why the code popped up but you got one hell of a deal tbh. Really struggling to find those good *** deals you guys always seem to find
When I was seriously looking the last few weeks this car was my close runner up…https://www.porschehuntvalley.com/ce...48c57612a1.htm

Now this is NOT a Turbo S but a very high spec Turbo (PCCB, SportDesign, front end lift, etc. with super low miles) and it is CPO. MSRP in excess of $205k, higher in fact than my TTS.

No connection to that dealer, just passing along what I thought was a great car. Can’t buy them all!
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it has the aftermarket kline exhaust that's why the code popped up but you got one hell of a deal tbh. Really struggling to find those good *** deals you guys always seem to find
Kline exhaust with cats will not set a code. Is it catless ? Even if it is , I would want to see the obd2 readout. Could be multiple codes for issues.
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Kline exhaust with cats will not set a code. Is it catless ? Even if it is , I would want to see the obd2 readout. Could be multiple codes for issues.
it's definitely catless but they are next to the porsche dealership which I will have them do a full inspection!
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I would say a bit overpriced if it’s an S, definitely overpriced if not an S.
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Vinanalystics will give you the build sheet. Love the color but it’s very light on options.
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You are going to have to just find something you like and go for it. Could there be a better deal out there? Sure. Does it matter? IMHO, no because there's not going to be a significant price difference between well-maintained, low mileage 991.2 TTS cars unless it's a PTS car or has carbon wheels or extremely low miles or something like that. If you have the means just buy it, every day you wait is a day you could be driving the car. These are not investments, they are going to lose value, there is a cost to ownership you are just going to have to get over. Anything $155k-$165k for a turbo s with under 30k miles is about average from what I've seen in my area so it's accurately priced if it's current on maintenance. Exhaust is $4-5k dollars or more installed so, if that's something you would have done to the car anyway, that's some added value for you. You may want to get a tune to go with the exhaust unless you just want to change the sound so I'd see if it's got a stage 1 or 2 tune on there already. If it's tuned, I'd want to know who did the tune, does it come with the Cobb if that was used to tune it? Those two things are worth up to 100 whp if it's a custom stage 2 tune FYI.

You also should ask about maintenance items. The car is close to or over the 6 year mark so there are some things to be done like a serpentine belt replacement and some other things that aren't cheap. Plugs need to be done on the turbo cars at 30k miles or 4 years so those are definitely due. The bumper has to come off to get to plugs, that service alone is $1500 - $2k depending on where you have it done - I just did that on my 2017 TTS, not sure what the 6 year maintenance costs on top of that if you do them both at the same time. Bonus from getting that done is you'll be able to see if it's got anything else like intercoolers, BMC filter, inlets, etc... I'd have them bring the car current on maintenance including the 6 year stuff if the previous owner didn't before I'd pay $160k. Other than that, if you like the car and have the means, go drive it and bring it home!
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Originally Posted by 1CEBITN
You are going to have to just find something you like and go for it. Could there be a better deal out there? Sure. Does it matter? IMHO, no because there's not going to be a significant price difference between well-maintained, low mileage 991.2 TTS cars unless it's a PTS car or has carbon wheels or extremely low miles or something like that. If you have the means just buy it, every day you wait is a day you could be driving the car. These are not investments, they are going to lose value, there is a cost to ownership you are just going to have to get over. Anything $155k-$165k for a turbo s with under 30k miles is about average from what I've seen in my area so it's accurately priced if it's current on maintenance. Exhaust is $4-5k dollars or more installed so, if that's something you would have done to the car anyway, that's some added value for you. You may want to get a tune to go with the exhaust unless you just want to change the sound so I'd see if it's got a stage 1 or 2 tune on there already. If it's tuned, I'd want to know who did the tune, does it come with the Cobb if that was used to tune it? Those two things are worth up to 100 whp if it's a custom stage 2 tune FYI.

You also should ask about maintenance items. The car is close to or over the 6 year mark so there are some things to be done like a serpentine belt replacement and some other things that aren't cheap. Plugs need to be done on the turbo cars at 30k miles or 4 years so those are definitely due. The bumper has to come off to get to plugs, that service alone is $1500 - $2k depending on where you have it done - I just did that on my 2017 TTS, not sure what the 6 year maintenance costs on top of that if you do them both at the same time. Bonus from getting that done is you'll be able to see if it's got anything else like intercoolers, BMC filter, inlets, etc... I'd have them bring the car current on maintenance including the 6 year stuff if the previous owner didn't before I'd pay $160k. Other than that, if you like the car and have the means, go drive it and bring it home!
very well written and thank you for your time on this! I'll be asking them for those services done at least if they aren't gonna come down on price! Appreciate the input!
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My thinking is that when shopping for a used car and not many are for sale, if you find one you really like and the price seems 'fair', it's best to pull the trigger and buy the car, because if you wait to find one you like AND can get it at a great price, you may never find a car meeting your criteria.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
My thinking is that when shopping for a used car and not many are for sale, if you find one you really like and the price seems 'fair', it's best to pull the trigger and buy the car, because if you wait to find one you like AND can get it at a great price, you may never find a car meeting your criteria.
yeah I think Im really looking for a unicorn and thats what is screwing me. BUT I have seen so many people on these forums get incredible deals so its not too farfetched lol


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