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Old 02-12-2023 | 11:17 AM
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FWIW, the flash tuner is a MyGenius by DM Sport.
Does the MyGenius box come with the car ? The box is a major clue to who tuned it. Hook it to the obd2 and the files should reveal the tuner.

Only a few ships like FabSpeed use MyGenius.

Find the tuner, will help you find the last owner.
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Old 02-12-2023 | 11:32 AM
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I'd want to see an oil analysis and maybe see what the pistons look like. What are the miles? How long has it been tuned? Is it priced below market because of the mods, or market priced? What mods are on the car that you would install anyway? This definitely a case of buying the PO as well as the car..
Old 02-12-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by onfireTTS
Does the MyGenius box come with the car ? The box is a major clue to who tuned it. Hook it to the obd2 and the files should reveal the tuner.

Only a few ships like FabSpeed use MyGenius.

Find the tuner, will help you find the last owner.
Yes, we have the MyGenius box and will follow up as you suggest.

Also, dealer says the plenum is probably IPD.
Old 02-12-2023 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pb Pedis
I guess I will be in the minority and say it’s unlikely this car is on its last legs. On stock turbos, even on 68s, these cars are mostly bulletproof and it’s unusual to see a 991.2 TTS destroyed by bolt on mods, especially the PDK. I think the chances are better the mods were add ons by the previous owner who didn’t get the performance they expected because they did not have a ProTune. So, they dumped the car and didn’t bother spending the labor to get it back to stock. My gut says the dealer is sitting on a good deal for the next buyer who can leverage the non CPO *and* the ambiguity of the mods to get a great deal on the car. If I was looking for a car to mod for a great price, I might roll the dice and have a local Indy (not the dealer) evaluate the car. If it looks good, I would low ball the dealer (especially in this market) and try to pick up a diamond in the rough for a steal.
FWIW, I drove this Turbo S back to back with a stock .2 Turbo. The S was noticeably more powerful, but it didn’t feel crazy powerful, I would guess somewhere in the 600s hp.
Old 02-12-2023 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
FWIW, I drove this Turbo S back to back with a stock .2 Turbo. The S was noticeably more powerful, but it didn’t feel crazy powerful, I would guess somewhere in the 600s hp.
This adds credibility to my point - a custom ProTune on a 991.2 TTS with intercoolers is going to absurdly fast compared to a stock 991.2 TT. That car is down on power and probably not because there is anything wrong with it. I would ****** it up.
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Originally Posted by Pb Pedis
This adds credibility to my point - a custom ProTune on a 991.2 TTS with intercoolers is going to absurdly fast compared to a stock 991.2 TT. That car is down on power and probably not because there is anything wrong with it. I would ****** it up.
Seems like the owner was prepared to make investments in the car. In addition to the power mods, he also spent about $10k upgrading the Burmeister sound system, as well as about $5k to install a built-in radar detector. Dealer doesn't know of any other mods, and thinks the turbos are the factory turbos.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Seems like the owner was prepared to make investments in the car. In addition to the power mods, he also spent about $10k upgrading the Burmeister sound system, as well as about $5k to install a built-in radar detector. Dealer doesn't know of any other mods, and thinks the turbos are the factory turbos.
Short of removing the turbos, or if the compressor housing is stamped by Tial, the 68s are going to look the same as stock. Who knows until you really look. Are you serious about buying or just looking?
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Originally Posted by Pb Pedis
Short of removing the turbos, or if the compressor housing is stamped by Tial, the 68s are going to look the same as stock. Who knows until you really look. Are you serious about buying or just looking?
Serious about buying. Most impressive car I ever drove on the road, and I like it more on the road than my 991.1 GT3. Car recently had a price drop of $12k, which brings the price to a reasonable level for a non-CPO. Could wait to buy and hope prices go down, but the car is local to me and I don't really want to spend weeks and months searching over a larger geographic region for a 'perfect' car at a bargain price.

991.2 turbo I drove didn't have PDCC, and I think PDCC is must have, really transforms the handling when you're on it, and better ride quality in the softer mode.

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If I liked the car and its options and the asking price, Id have a PPI done that includes dyno runs.
The amount of power increase over stock would be most interesting.
If it is within 200 HP over stock, I wouldn't worry. I'd jump on it.
If it is 400+ HP above stock, I'd definitely be worrying about that.
Am I too logical for u?

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Old 02-12-2023 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PCA1983
…The amount of power increase over stock would be most interesting.
If it is within 200 HP over stock, I wouldn't worry. I'd jump on it.
If it is 400+ HP above stock, I'd definitely be worrying about that.
Am I too logical for u?
He said the power was marginally better than a stock 991.2TT he drove back to back. My guess is someone flashed the ECU map on this 991.2TTS back to stock. A ProTune 991.2TTS car would have been a 200HP difference over a a stock 991.2TT.
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Price trends seem to favor waiting to buy a 991 TT or TTS.

Old 02-13-2023 | 02:53 PM
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I agree with PB - this platform is rock solid and ready to party especially with a few bolt-ons. I wouldn't let it deter me if nothing stands out of the ordinary,

I would just check the service records with the dealership and have a PPI performed at an Indy and hopefully everything checks out
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my 2014 TTS is custom tuned By Sam Stage 2, with Europipe exhaust, DSC V3, car has 52k miles and runs like the day it came off the showroom floor just faster. Rock solid as stated above.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Price trends seem to favor waiting to buy a 991 TT or TTS.
I like that guy's videos. But, does it make a difference to you and your rationale for buying the car now?

If I were in the market and my motivation was to minimize my downside risk by waiting for a slow down in the depreciation curve.... who knows how long I would have to wait to get the car? After the market peak about a year ago, values have nowhere to go but down. I bought my car in May 2020 when the depreciation curve was magnified by the pandemic - I had offers and could have sold at any point in the last 2 years and made money - but then I wouldn't have a P car to drive.

If I were in the market and my motivation was to get a great car to own, drive, stare at while it sits in the garage, etc, - then I would jump in as soon as I saw the spec I wanted for sale and start enjoying it while I can.

I am one foot in the market for a 992 TTS now. I'm waiting to see what happens with supply of both new and CPO and I think Q3 is the litmus test. But, I have the luxury of waiting because I already have the car I want and I can drive it anytime - I would be much more motivated if that were not the case.
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Old 02-13-2023 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pb Pedis
I like that guy's videos. But, does it make a difference to you and your rationale for buying the car now?

If I were in the market and my motivation was to minimize my downside risk by waiting for a slow down in the depreciation curve.... who knows how long I would have to wait to get the car? After the market peak about a year ago, values have nowhere to go but down. I bought my car in May 2020 when the depreciation curve was magnified by the pandemic - I had offers and could have sold at any point in the last 2 years and made money - but then I wouldn't have a P car to drive.

If I were in the market and my motivation was to get a great car to own, drive, stare at while it sits in the garage, etc, - then I would jump in as soon as I saw the spec I wanted for sale and start enjoying it while I can.

I am one foot in the market for a 992 TTS now. I'm waiting to see what happens with supply of both new and CPO and I think Q3 is the litmus test. But, I have the luxury of waiting because I already have the car I want and I can drive it anytime - I would be much more motivated if that were not the case.
Apparently it doesn’t make a difference to me, because I decided to buy the car! I like the colors and build and upgrades, so I decided to just ahead and grab it.
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