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Glad I can make everyone laugh! Thought I would try to lighten the conversation since it’s a really sticky one. As far as escorts, never used them nor have I ever had an urge, super happy with my girl. More thanks for the conversations and ideas you give us. As far as Nick, he’s a keeper! He just finished my Cayenne Diesel that I had wrapped again.
I feel I paid top dollar for a complete car wrap...not to the extent of parts removal but all surfaces were covered (headlights too)...I also requested a second layer along the rockers and high impact areas...
Although the price was high (and I think fair for the time spent) the job is not without issues...minor as they may and apparently inevitable ..they are still there..which poses the question,,Is a perfect wrap job possible ?
And the company acknowledged a few struggles...mostly due to being a black car (non-metallic) they had some dust issues (under the wrap) and several instances of fold lines mostly on top of the hips (rear fenders) as apparently the side pieces are of one component some 8 feet long running under the door, over the rear fender and the roof line over the door.
I consider myself somewhat of an understanding type and if the job was as good as possible (by them) then so be it..the shop owner did offer a re-do (of the two areas) at the time ( I declined as they had the car for two weeks in the spring and i just wanted the chance to drive my brand new car) or return it this fall for re-do of the areas..
We all know sometimes one is better off accepting the first iteration as often subsequent stabs result in even worse results..therefore I will discuss my options soon as our driving season ends but doubt I'll ask for a re-do
In the end yes I'm somewhat disappointed it's not "perfect" but after all it's just a wrap..not a paint job and eventually it will come off and likely be replaced.
It was completed by a very reputable local shop at a cost in excess of $5k CDN
I feel I paid top dollar for a complete car wrap...not to the extent of parts removal but all surfaces were covered (headlights too)...I also requested a second layer along the rockers and high impact areas...
Although the price was high (and I think fair for the time spent) the job is not without issues...minor as they may and apparently inevitable ..they are still there..which poses the question,,Is a perfect wrap job possible ?
And the company acknowledged a few struggles...mostly due to being a black car (non-metallic) they had some dust issues (under the wrap) and several instances of fold lines mostly on top of the hips (rear fenders) as apparently the side pieces are of one component some 8 feet long running under the door, over the rear fender and the roof line over the door.
I consider myself somewhat of an understanding type and if the job was as good as possible (by them) then so be it..the shop owner did offer a re-do (of the two areas) at the time ( I declined as they had the car for two weeks in the spring and i just wanted the chance to drive my brand new car) or return it this fall for re-do of the areas..
We all know sometimes one is better off accepting the first iteration as often subsequent stabs result in even worse results..therefore I will discuss my options soon as our driving season ends but doubt I'll ask for a re-do
In the end yes I'm somewhat disappointed it's not "perfect" but after all it's just a wrap..not a paint job and eventually it will come off and likely be replaced.
It was completed by a very reputable local shop at a cost in excess of $5k CDN
As it relates to cleanliness, you can only be as good as what you see. We've invested heavily into our lighting in our dedicated clear bra room and paint correction room.
I'm psychotic about seeing things, so both rooms can either be your best friend, or your worst enemy if you what I mean.
With all that said, Perfection is an illusion...I'll be the first to admit there no such thing as a perfect installation because if you look long enough, you'll always find something that can be improved. With that said, where the installer's paint threshold and skill level is, determines the outcome of the installation. Also, curve ***** such as factory defects, material defects, etc. play a role and also dictate the level of perfection.
For example, we've had major issues with paint as it relates to 991 generation. Some may opt to just clear bra over it, when others want the clear coat defects fixed, black dots in clear fixed, etc. That where we come in. We notice the smaller detail, we cannot catch all but do see most, and give client his/her option on how to move forward. To me, that's value.
We ALWAYS do a 2-3 week follow up because we know the finished product needs time to settle and certain things will need attention again. And when we have our semi-annual/annual clients come in for service, we always do little touch ups as the frame shifts and bends and it sometimes affects our work.
It's all part of the experience and as long as it meets, and exceeds, client expectations, all parties are happy
Believe it or not, things we miss on round 1 or need to redo, do in fact come out better on round 2 because we don't want to repeat any errors in installation.
I feel that has a lot to do with installer skill. No one wants to do a bad job, but skill limits what can be done.
Well for me its how **** you are. It ranges from 1) "No clear bra for me - I like to see the patina to 2) Good / Decent job on the front end, mirrors etc. 3) Perfect concours quality job on the whole car..
I used to be in camp 1 and after 9 years my Carrera S had a lot of rock marks on the hood and front bumper. So I migrated to Camp 2 and paid $3K for my front end clear bra job. I am not **** to the nth degree and its a pretty good job. I dont feel the need for level 3) to pay $10K on what was a $150K car to make it perfect and then worry about preserving it in concours condition. That would drive me nuts.
Now if i had a Speciale or 288GTO that i wanted to be perfect, then yes i would spend $10K on a full scale job. I cant imagine doing it on a driver (daily) modern TT Porsche thats diminishing in value as we speak
Well for me its how **** you are. It ranges from 1) "No clear bra for me - I like to see the patina to 2) Good / Decent job on the front end, mirrors etc. 3) Perfect concours quality job on the whole car..
I used to be in camp 1 and after 9 years my Carrera S had a lot of rock marks on the hood and front bumper. So I migrated to Camp 2 and paid $3K for my front end clear bra job. I am not **** to the nth degree and its a pretty good job. I dont feel the need for level 3) to pay $10K on what was a $150K car to make it perfect and then worry about preserving it in concours condition. That would drive me nuts.
Now if i had a Speciale or 288GTO that i wanted to be perfect, then yes i would spend $10K on a full scale job. I cant imagine doing it on a driver (daily) modern TT Porsche thats diminishing in value as we speak
+1...camp 2 and 3 is our specialty...our typical full front installation ranges between $2750-3750 depending on if it’s semi-custom or full custom and a few little options here and there
Just a heads up to anyone with the aero kit. My installer tried removing the mud flap and ended up cracking the side skirt. The mud flap goes into an actual gap designed in the side skirt so it needs to be removed before wrapping the side skirt with PPF.
I have seen a PPF install done by what is considered one of the best installers in the country. It was good, but after knowing what the price was, I couldn't say I would recommend paying that. I think for the PPF install alone it was around $8k. You are going to have edges, for example on the roof where it ends, on the front bumper unless you want to remove the bumper but when you do that the fender and bumper may rub up against each other removing the film. I have seen quotes for around $5k for what I would consider 95% as good as the $8k install. I think the $3k I would save knowing that eventually the film is going to have to be removed and replaced. But that's just me. I guess if I was buying a $200k+ car, then the $8k install may bother me a lot less. Where I wouldn't skimp is on the front bumper install. If you can get a single piece of film compared to pre cut, that I would do. Also I agree with only doing the front, I would just avoid doing the entire car. Yes, there is always the chance that something happens but my goal is to protect the high impact areas, not the entire thing. Also, do a two layer piece on the rear quarters, so you can have a yearly piece that you can remove and replace.
08-29-2019, 02:33 PM
