bruinmd

............I apologize ahead of time if this has been discussed but I couldn't find the thread when I searched.

In short, I'm planning to add a TTS coupe with sunroof by this time next year. I've been watching the price drops of the .1 on autotrader, and I've now even seen a couple below $100K.
The .2's are still much higher but will probably be in the $130-150K range by this time next year, if not a bit lower.

I've driven the .2 at the porsche school in birmingham and became a convert. It would be my 3rd car (I've got a truck and am waiting on delivery of a 2019 Shelby GT350). So the turbo S will be a car I daily a lot and will maybe take to the track a couple of weekends a year.
My previous Porsches are a 987 Cayman S and a 997.2 Carrera GTS cab.

The instructors at Porsche couldn't really tell me of any significant performance differences between the .1 and .2 so I wanted to get an idea from .1 and .2 owners (or those who traded their .1 for a .2) about any real world differences/performance differences, and if it's worth spending the extra $30K+ by next year on a .2.

abiazis

neil.schneider

cartester

The 991.2 S peaks at 20 hp more then the 991.1 S but due to torque management all of that starts at 5500 rpm with the peak at 6750 rpm. So if you live between those engine speeds you'll see an average increase of 10 hp in that range with the .2 over the .1. With physically larger turbochargers generating those 20 extra hp there is the potential for even greater gains with aftermarket mods.

rodsky

I went for a .1 knowing i would likely mod it. So saved around $35 and spent much less than that to turn it up a few notches. Now I have .2 TTS levels of performance for less $$ and my car still only has 13K miles. You cant go wrong either way. the .2 is a smidge/little better all around. .1 is better value. Both awesome. .1 values are good right now and with CPO youre in good shape. Only bummer with .1 - no apple play . From there, it doesnt give up much.

928 GT R

I looked for a long time and considered many aspects of ownership before purchasing my 991.1 vs a 991.2. It came down to two cars: A brand new White 19 TTS and and a Sapphire Blue Exclusive build CPO 15 TT with 62 options. Cost was not the main issue, details of the car played the major role and I loved the build sheet and low miles of the 991.1

The performance differential of the 991.2 (560 hp vs 580 & both generate 516 ft of torque) simply did not seem large enough to bridge the $80k price differential for a lesser optioned car. Plus the dealer with the .2 is a disaster at both sales and service...

It also turned out the 991.1 has fresh full XPEL clear wrap, perfect paint, "S" software upgrade and a beautiful titanium exhaust system.

The trick is finding the car you want, the differences between the 991.1 & 991.2 are quite minimal. The 992? We will see about that one!

hcvone

991.1's were built before 2017, all 2017 and up are 991.2. The 991.2 will cost you more because the cars are newer, if you find a CPO car you can get warranties to 2023 like my car, ordered a new one and the dealer called me and said we just took the same car you ordered in trade, told them I was not interested, wanted new, but sent a friend over, who is a professional car detailer, car was in south Florida and I am in Pennsylvania, he called me and said "it's as good or better than new" after weeks of back and forth I got the car delivered to PA and saved over 52k. Car was one year and one day old with 2002 miles, owned by a 83 year old gentlemen, it was perfect. So look around they are out there

Woody7

Someone mentioned the upgraded PCM and Apple CarPlay in the 991.2. That was a factor for me since it makes using your phone GPS, etc. so much easier.

bruinmd

This is what i'm curious about: what specific technical differences are there? You say it makes using GPS easier, etc with an upgraded PCM......how does that translate to day to day use/technology? Is the PCM interface easier to use in the .2?
I don't care about apple car play-- had it in my M2 and didn't care for it/use it

Performance wise, it seems that the differences are minimal from what I've heard/read.

Woody7

I really like Apple CarPlay so that was a big difference for me - my comment about GPS referred to being able to use GPS apps from your phone like Waze and Google Maps, which are better than the built in GPS. Otherwise, IIRC PCM 3.0 has a bigger screen, more intuitive interface, faster response, wifi capability, etc. I went from a 997.2 to a 991.2 and never had the 991.1 with PCM 2.1 so maybe someone out there who has used both can add anything I missed.

Dennis C

I'm with you on Apple Car Play. I have it in my GMC Denali and I don't like it at all.

The PCM system in the 991.1 cars works very well. I use the PCM navigation regularly, and it's great. I much prefer it to Waze. I don't care about wifi in a car, so that's not important to me. I think the biggest improvements in the newer PCM are the bigger screen as noted above, and perhaps faster processing speeds.

To me personally, I think the biggest improvements on the 991.2 cars are the design of the tail lights and the rear bumper cover. I have also heard great things about the anti-lag system for the turbos. I actually prefer the LED lighting on the front of the 991.1 cars over the 991.2 cars.

As others have said, they are both excellent choices. It's all good.

ausgezeichnet

OP I have always found Porsche to be lagging behind in the tech front comparatively to other brands like BMW and Mercedes so always wanted to try and get the latest model in the Porsche line up .

I was impatient and bought a gen1 991 GTS just as the gen2 was 3,4 months away from launch .

I was definitely disappointed in the sat nav and tech .

I had come out of a BMW M4 and the process for example of making a call in car was so straight forward just hit voice button and ask for the name you want to call .

Switching to the Porsche I had to go into a menu and scroll through the alphabet letter by letter like an old rolodex system .

The sat nav was equally rubbish with no touch screen .

Suffice to say I sold the car soon after purchase .

The gen2 sat nav and Bluetooth phone are much better and if as you say the car is intended for daily use then I would advise gen2

Dennis C

I have no doubt that the gen 2 system is better, but I'm confused by a few things you said. I use the voice button in my 991.1 to make calls all the time. It works well. My 991.1 has a touch screen. I prefer to use the ***** because I don't like fingerprints on the screen, but it's a touch screen if I want to use it that way. Also, what's so bad about the nav? Mine works great, the interface is fast, it has automatic traffic re-routing, etc. I can't imagine anything that it could do better.

I'm just curious....

Bruce H.

There were a number of refinements to the suspension, AWD/torque vectoring systems, and PDK to improve handling/performance as well as various changes to the engine. It's my impression from reviews that most improvements might not be noticeable in normal use but would be under more demanding driving on the track or wherever. Might have been a newer generation of P-Zero tire. I believe track times at both Laguna Seca and the Ring improved rather significantly. I think you can count on newer versions always improving in performance

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