Looking for Turbo S guidance
#1
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Looking for Turbo S guidance
Hey gang, long time turbo owner here, multiple 996tt's, 997tt, and 993tt across my P-car time. I currently have a really nice 997tt that I'm thinking of selling to move up to a 991.1TTS. In the 997tt's, certain things are really sought after MT (not applicable here), the performance diff, active sport seats, and ceramic brakes all seem to be what the buyers want. What are those things that are "must haves" for 991's?
I know I don't want active cruise, as I just hate it. What packages are those in so I can avoid it? I'm a white car guy, so at least there doesn't appear to be a lack of those in the market lol.
I know I don't want active cruise, as I just hate it. What packages are those in so I can avoid it? I'm a white car guy, so at least there doesn't appear to be a lack of those in the market lol.
#2
Hey gang, long time turbo owner here, multiple 996tt's, 997tt, and 993tt across my P-car time. I currently have a really nice 997tt that I'm thinking of selling to move up to a 991.1TTS. In the 997tt's, certain things are really sought after MT (not applicable here), the performance diff, active sport seats, and ceramic brakes all seem to be what the buyers want. What are those things that are "must haves" for 991's?
I know I don't want active cruise, as I just hate it. What packages are those in so I can avoid it? I'm a white car guy, so at least there doesn't appear to be a lack of those in the market lol.
I know I don't want active cruise, as I just hate it. What packages are those in so I can avoid it? I'm a white car guy, so at least there doesn't appear to be a lack of those in the market lol.
Happy to help- I have a nice selection of 991 Turbos and will be happy to take a 997 TT on trade. www.porschefresno.com
Good luck!
Bests,
Nicholas
#3
Instructor
personally I'd get a .2 car
I feel it to be a major step up.
That being said id get entry and drive
heated/cooled seats
light design package
center locks for sure
and the rest is up to your taste
if a cab id stay Bose if coupe do burmester
I feel it to be a major step up.
That being said id get entry and drive
heated/cooled seats
light design package
center locks for sure
and the rest is up to your taste
if a cab id stay Bose if coupe do burmester
#4
Rocky Mountain High
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Scott,
I made the move from a 997.1 Turbo to a 991.1 Turbo S a couple of years ago. The first thing that I'll say is that even though I loved my 997.1 Turbo, the 991.1 Turbo S is in a different league. It's better in every way. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a 991.2 Turbo S, but it sounds like it has some nice improvements (inside and out).
The beauty of the Turbo S is that it comes with lots of standard equipment that's optional on the regular Turbo or on other 911 variants. The Turbo S already has ceramic brakes, it already has PDCC, it already has RAS, it already has PDLS+, etc. In the Turbo S cars, you'll find that many of the options are related to interior leather or carbon fiber. It's nice to have the Burmester system, even in a cabriolet. It's fantastic. I really like the ventilated seats, and I like the Porsche Entry & Drive option. I know that some of the early 991.1 cars don't have a reversing camera, but I believe all the later .1 cars and all the .2 cars have it. These cars are so well-equipped, you can't really miss something like you could with the 997 Turbo (like ordering one without Sport Chrono).
I made the move from a 997.1 Turbo to a 991.1 Turbo S a couple of years ago. The first thing that I'll say is that even though I loved my 997.1 Turbo, the 991.1 Turbo S is in a different league. It's better in every way. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a 991.2 Turbo S, but it sounds like it has some nice improvements (inside and out).
The beauty of the Turbo S is that it comes with lots of standard equipment that's optional on the regular Turbo or on other 911 variants. The Turbo S already has ceramic brakes, it already has PDCC, it already has RAS, it already has PDLS+, etc. In the Turbo S cars, you'll find that many of the options are related to interior leather or carbon fiber. It's nice to have the Burmester system, even in a cabriolet. It's fantastic. I really like the ventilated seats, and I like the Porsche Entry & Drive option. I know that some of the early 991.1 cars don't have a reversing camera, but I believe all the later .1 cars and all the .2 cars have it. These cars are so well-equipped, you can't really miss something like you could with the 997 Turbo (like ordering one without Sport Chrono).
#5
Scott,
I made the move from a 997.1 Turbo to a 991.1 Turbo S a couple of years ago. The first thing that I'll say is that even though I loved my 997.1 Turbo, the 991.1 Turbo S is in a different league. It's better in every way. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a 991.2 Turbo S, but it sounds like it has some nice improvements (inside and out).
The beauty of the Turbo S is that it comes with lots of standard equipment that's optional on the regular Turbo or on other 911 variants. The Turbo S already has ceramic brakes, it already has PDCC, it already has RAS, it already has PDLS+, etc. In the Turbo S cars, you'll find that many of the options are related to interior leather or carbon fiber. It's nice to have the Burmester system, even in a cabriolet. It's fantastic. I really like the ventilated seats, and I like the Porsche Entry & Drive option. I know that some of the early 991.1 cars don't have a reversing camera, but I believe all the later .1 cars and all the .2 cars have it. These cars are so well-equipped, you can't really miss something like you could with the 997 Turbo (like ordering one without Sport Chrono).
I made the move from a 997.1 Turbo to a 991.1 Turbo S a couple of years ago. The first thing that I'll say is that even though I loved my 997.1 Turbo, the 991.1 Turbo S is in a different league. It's better in every way. I haven't had the opportunity to drive a 991.2 Turbo S, but it sounds like it has some nice improvements (inside and out).
The beauty of the Turbo S is that it comes with lots of standard equipment that's optional on the regular Turbo or on other 911 variants. The Turbo S already has ceramic brakes, it already has PDCC, it already has RAS, it already has PDLS+, etc. In the Turbo S cars, you'll find that many of the options are related to interior leather or carbon fiber. It's nice to have the Burmester system, even in a cabriolet. It's fantastic. I really like the ventilated seats, and I like the Porsche Entry & Drive option. I know that some of the early 991.1 cars don't have a reversing camera, but I believe all the later .1 cars and all the .2 cars have it. These cars are so well-equipped, you can't really miss something like you could with the 997 Turbo (like ordering one without Sport Chrono).
#6
Rocky Mountain High
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I would not wast my money on Burmester. I drove 3,500 km in a 991.2 in Europe and thought it was very mediocre. Go with the Musicar upgrades (https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1032...lub-coupe.html). For the same investment you get a far superior sound.
#7
Burning Brakes
My 991 TTS is everything I would order, except Center Lock wheels, I dislike changing them, and I have a $$$ torque multiplier, custom made extension, 3 CL nuts, a Delrin safety lock tool, modified CL caps, double floor jacks, a collection of jack stands, and it is tedious and long to change wheels.
If you don't change wheels often, go for CL, otherwise avoid.
Price difference between 991.1 and 991.2 is sizeable. Best value for money is 991.1 Turbo S with 6y/100k miles warranty.
Mine is a no-sunroof car, because I didn't want the excess weight at the highest possible point, handling is more important than looks.
I tested the Bose and Burmester, I disagree, the Burmester rocks at high volumes while the Bose distorts at those volume levels. On the used market, the car price won't make a difference with one system or the other.
- PCCB a must
- PDCC a must
- Lowering springs a must
- A good muffler (Kline) a must
- Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for street driving a must, Hoosiers for track use (or Trofeo R)
- Ventilated seats a must (I use them almost every time)
- 18-way sport seats a must (the 14-way comfort seats make you fall from your torso at every turn over 0.5g)
- I have comfort access and sensors on all bumpers, don't care for them, came with the car.
- I like all the Carbon fiber and full leather interior in my 991.1 Turbo S, looks and feel great, standard in all Turbo S cars and a must
I have driven 4 different 991.2 Turbo S, not wanting it enough to justify a $60k price difference in the used market for same miles and options as my 991.1 Turbo S, I would rather add a manual transmission Cayman/Boxster on that price range.
If you don't change wheels often, go for CL, otherwise avoid.
Price difference between 991.1 and 991.2 is sizeable. Best value for money is 991.1 Turbo S with 6y/100k miles warranty.
Mine is a no-sunroof car, because I didn't want the excess weight at the highest possible point, handling is more important than looks.
I tested the Bose and Burmester, I disagree, the Burmester rocks at high volumes while the Bose distorts at those volume levels. On the used market, the car price won't make a difference with one system or the other.
- PCCB a must
- PDCC a must
- Lowering springs a must
- A good muffler (Kline) a must
- Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for street driving a must, Hoosiers for track use (or Trofeo R)
- Ventilated seats a must (I use them almost every time)
- 18-way sport seats a must (the 14-way comfort seats make you fall from your torso at every turn over 0.5g)
- I have comfort access and sensors on all bumpers, don't care for them, came with the car.
- I like all the Carbon fiber and full leather interior in my 991.1 Turbo S, looks and feel great, standard in all Turbo S cars and a must
I have driven 4 different 991.2 Turbo S, not wanting it enough to justify a $60k price difference in the used market for same miles and options as my 991.1 Turbo S, I would rather add a manual transmission Cayman/Boxster on that price range.
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#8
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Thanks for all the replies! Dennis, I remember your mocha 997tt cab very well. I hate to get rid of the 997 as it seems to still be appreciating somewhat, but I never drive it... in part because it's a manual (egad!). I don't think a .2S is in my price range, so I'll be looking in the .1S range to keep the price point a little lower. This is strictly a garage queen/nice day car for me, so I won't be worried much about swapping wheels for winter or track for that matter.
I like unique interiors with lots of factory options, and I'm certainly in no hurry, so I'll keep a look out in all the normal spots. Thanks to all!
I like unique interiors with lots of factory options, and I'm certainly in no hurry, so I'll keep a look out in all the normal spots. Thanks to all!
#9
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I happen to love the look and performance of my Aero Kit. It's not for everyone but I would recommend it. And one last item that you have to order separately is the Escort 360 MaxCI. When connected to the Escort Live I can't think of any other service to drive with.
Enjoy your new car.
Jay
Enjoy your new car.
Jay
#10
Rocky Mountain High
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+1 on Escort Max 360 Ci. I’ve got the custom mirror display on mine, and it’s awesome.
#11
RL Community Team
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If you are talking Turbo S, then there aren't too options left to begin, much less options that are a "must have"
#12
Although I haven't done it yet, I do plan to lower my 991.2. Given that, the front lift was a requirement for me.
Otherwise, I also wanted the aerokit to differentiate a bit more from other Turbo S. I have the Burmester and wouldn't consider it a must have, although others like it more than me.
Otherwise, I also wanted the aerokit to differentiate a bit more from other Turbo S. I have the Burmester and wouldn't consider it a must have, although others like it more than me.
#13
Although I haven't done it yet, I do plan to lower my 991.2. Given that, the front lift was a requirement for me.
Otherwise, I also wanted the aerokit to differentiate a bit more from other Turbo S. I have the Burmester and wouldn't consider it a must have, although others like it more than me.
Otherwise, I also wanted the aerokit to differentiate a bit more from other Turbo S. I have the Burmester and wouldn't consider it a must have, although others like it more than me.
#14
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For a Turbo S there isn't anything it needs.
For a TT (non-S) you'll have to decide on whether you need the 18 way seats and PDCC. If you want the PCCBs just get an S.
For a 991.1TT (non-S) I think sport chrono was still an option so if you want launch control you'd need to have that option or pay to have a software change.
For a TT (non-S) you'll have to decide on whether you need the 18 way seats and PDCC. If you want the PCCBs just get an S.
For a 991.1TT (non-S) I think sport chrono was still an option so if you want launch control you'd need to have that option or pay to have a software change.
#15
Drifting
I agree with most of the guys here. I would definitely get heated and cooled seats. The entry and drive. I like the upgraded stereo. My car also has power steering plus as well as the folding mirrors. The last two are not necessities but they’re nice. As far as color is concerned, I also bought a white car but mine is the metallic white which I really like. In the sun you can definitely see the silver sheen to it which makes it stand out. I also have a two toned interior which I like very much. Either way you can’t really go wrong. Let us know how it turns out good luck and have fun with the search.
Last edited by neil.schneider; 08-01-2018 at 03:34 PM.