Michelin Pilot 4S - how big a difference?
08-06-2017, 01:35 AM
#1
Michelin Pilot 4S - how big a difference?
I’m contemplating a tire/wheel hazard policy. I realized if I buy 4 Pilot 4S tires for about th same price as th cost of the insurance, based on a few threads, I get better tires and tir hazard insurance is included. About $1460 shipped from Tire Rack. I’d have to pay probably about $200 for install and balance.
I was very happy with the OEM Pirelli’s in my 2016. How big of a difference an I looking at to switch to Michelin’s? I don’t track the car, South Florida local driving only really.
Appreciate the guidance....
I was very happy with the OEM Pirelli’s in my 2016. How big of a difference an I looking at to switch to Michelin’s? I don’t track the car, South Florida local driving only really.
Appreciate the guidance....
08-06-2017, 01:58 PM
#3
i remember putting PSS on my wife's old AMG SLK, from whatever OEM had, and didn't notice that much difference except newer and a little more grip due to the other faded tread. I'll probably give them a shot, maybe let the P Zero where down a bit first, or should i do it from the get go?
08-06-2017, 02:50 PM
#4
This surprises me. Not that Michelin's aren't good, they are the Best but I have yet to notice any traction issue with the P-Zero wet or dry. South Florida. Sticky as can be mostly quiet.
i remember putting PSS on my wife's old AMG SLK, from whatever OEM had, and didn't notice that much difference except newer and a little more grip due to the other faded tread. I'll probably give them a shot, maybe let the P Zero where down a bit first, or should i do it from the get go?
i remember putting PSS on my wife's old AMG SLK, from whatever OEM had, and didn't notice that much difference except newer and a little more grip due to the other faded tread. I'll probably give them a shot, maybe let the P Zero where down a bit first, or should i do it from the get go?
Go fo MPS4S without any doubt. Pirlelli P Zero is probably the worst tire of this segment.
I do have a very good experience on different tires and MPS4S is the best in its class.
08-06-2017, 03:11 PM
#5
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by wassy
This surprises me. Not that Michelin's aren't good, they are the Best but I have yet to notice any traction issue with the P-Zero wet or dry. South Florida. Sticky as can be mostly quiet.
i remember putting PSS on my wife's old AMG SLK, from whatever OEM had, and didn't notice that much difference except newer and a little more grip due to the other faded tread. I'll probably give them a shot, maybe let the P Zero where down a bit first, or should i do it from the get go?
i remember putting PSS on my wife's old AMG SLK, from whatever OEM had, and didn't notice that much difference except newer and a little more grip due to the other faded tread. I'll probably give them a shot, maybe let the P Zero where down a bit first, or should i do it from the get go?
08-06-2017, 07:35 PM
#7
Burning Brakes
I've had no problems either with my P Zeros...in street driving. I had the 4Ss on my 991 GTS just before I sold it and in street driving there wasn't much difference in my experience. I noticed the biggest difference on the track, primarily in longevity. The P Zeros were almost shredded after 1 day (4 sessions, 3 of which were in the rain). That's when I realized that these were complete trash for tires. The 4Ss held up much better after a track day with them. Also, the Pirellis are often more expensive which is laughable.
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08-09-2017, 08:14 PM
#11
Same here, zero issues with grip of my P0's to date. I can't imagine how it must feel if the 4S is significantly better. But I keep checking my rear tread hoping to justify pulling trigger on some new Michelins:-). I have some awesome twisties where I live and wish those P0's would hurry up and wear out.
08-09-2017, 08:47 PM
#12
My thoughts were if I get PS4 from tire rack, it comes with road haZard warranty. Instead of paying for a tire wheel policy I can have new tires and a warranty for just a few hundred more. It won’t cover wheels but what’s a refinish if I ever need one or two? $150-200? But if the PS4
Offer no real benefit for my purposes not sure it’s makes sense. On the other hand I certainly don’t think it will hurt based on feedback ???
Offer no real benefit for my purposes not sure it’s makes sense. On the other hand I certainly don’t think it will hurt based on feedback ???
08-10-2017, 04:44 PM
#13
Rennlist Member
Not sure I'd bother changing early unless it were to a different performance class but YMMV.
I take my chances with tire hazard issues. As you say, if you have an issue the costs just generally aren't that crazy. If you're ok tossing the OE tires because you think you might like the new ones a touch better and if not then no big deal, is the road hazard warranty really that important?
The 2017s have an updated compound in the Pzeros. I think they're coded N1 instead of N0 or something along those lines. Are the michelins better than the newer Pzeros or just the older version? I'd expect them to outdo the older ones but I wondered if the revised Pzero is pretty comparable overall.
I take my chances with tire hazard issues. As you say, if you have an issue the costs just generally aren't that crazy. If you're ok tossing the OE tires because you think you might like the new ones a touch better and if not then no big deal, is the road hazard warranty really that important?
The 2017s have an updated compound in the Pzeros. I think they're coded N1 instead of N0 or something along those lines. Are the michelins better than the newer Pzeros or just the older version? I'd expect them to outdo the older ones but I wondered if the revised Pzero is pretty comparable overall.