Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

981 Cayman vs 991 GT3 comparo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-06-2016, 02:33 PM
  #1  
rm21
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
rm21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default 981 Cayman vs 991 GT3 comparo

Due to the broken axle on my GT3, I had to bring my Cayman out of retirement for a track event at Barber this weekend. I hadn’t driven the Cayman on the track for nearly two years. Here are some impressions.
This was a Rezoom event with open passing in the advanced group. Tons of black flags the first day, so I hardly got any track time, but it was better this morning. The open passing was a blessing, since many of the Corvette drivers don’t seem to give the Cayman much respect. Open passing made that mostly irrelevant!

It took a few sessions to get reacquainted with the car. The biggest differences were a lot more body roll and not being able to make up for your mistakes with a simple application of the throttle. But once I got used to it, it was a lot of fun. My laps times were around 5 seconds higher, which is about what I expected (high 1:42s vs. high 1:37s). I’ve included an AIM screen shot to show where I picked up the time. My GT3 is pretty dialed in, and the Cayman was originally an S but is probably more like a 981 GTS at this point. It has RE71R 245/285 tires, Cargraphic headers, an IPD plenum/TB and a BGB 981 GTS ECU flash, which I had them do at the track. If I was going to continue tracking it, I’d probably change the swaybars and move to coilovers. My dream is still for Porsche to release a GT3 or RS engine in the 981 platform. That would be an awesome vehicle.


Old 11-06-2016, 02:42 PM
  #2  
Jimmy-D
Race Director
 
Jimmy-D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Midwest
Posts: 11,271
Received 1,454 Likes on 758 Posts
Default

Try a GT4- it may surprise you
Old 11-06-2016, 03:44 PM
  #3  
rm21
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
rm21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

GT4 is great, just not great enough for me to give up my GT3. 😀
Old 11-06-2016, 05:03 PM
  #4  
fxz
Race Car
 
fxz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
Posts: 4,484
Received 436 Likes on 262 Posts
Wink

CompaWhat?
Old 11-06-2016, 09:08 PM
  #5  
allans
Burning Brakes
 
allans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Roswell, Ga.
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Rich, How would you you rate the RE71 Vs. SC2 Vs. Trofeo tires. Thanks, Allan
Old 11-06-2016, 10:07 PM
  #6  
rm21
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
rm21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hard to say since I haven't run them on the same car. The RE71R is a great tire and a good set of compromises. Easy to manage pressures, good grip and wear seems good, although I would need more days to say for sure. The SC2s seem similar. The Trofeos are the most finicky, but if I had to run a fast lap I would pick them over the other two options. However, they aren't great in the rain, and their pressures fluctuate a lot more than the other two tires.
Old 11-07-2016, 12:23 AM
  #7  
allans
Burning Brakes
 
allans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Roswell, Ga.
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Thanks Rich. Allan
Old 11-28-2016, 08:05 AM
  #8  
rm21
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
rm21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Since I might be using my Cayman for a bit, I removed my Smartycam setup from my GT3 and put it in my Cayman. Had great conditions at Road Atlanta this past weekend. Was running ~ 5 seconds off my GT3 pace, which was mostly due to speeds on the straights, where the Cayman felt soo slow. Changing cars is a great learning experience. It made me realize how much more speed I can probably be carrying with the GT3. You clearly have to drive the Cayman as a momentum car, and since my brakes were wearing out, I tried to use them as little as possible! Turn-in is much better in the Cayman and I had to get used to that as well as throttle steering a lot more. The RE71R tires performed great, wore evenly, and had plenty left after 4 track days. Better to be on track rather than at home, but boy do I miss my GT3.

Old 11-28-2016, 10:57 AM
  #9  
Kobalt
Race Car
 
Kobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 4,848
Received 419 Likes on 197 Posts
Post

Originally Posted by rm21
Changing cars is a great learning experience. It made me realize how much more speed I can probably be carrying with the GT3. You clearly have to drive the Cayman as a momentum car.

+1
I notice the same thing going from GT3 to Cayman (987.2S). Driving the Cayman is really fun because I really must do the right thing to be fast - it is easy to get lazy in the GT3.
Jumping between cars improves the skill in both cars. This is kind of weird but it seems to be true.
Old 11-29-2016, 12:53 AM
  #10  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,595
Received 1,792 Likes on 1,090 Posts
Default

Try being lazy in a 997 GT3. :-)

I think some more seat time in the cayman you close the gap. Carry more corner momentum!

USCtrojan is doing the opposite, 1.5 years of mid engine and now playing with the 911.
Old 11-29-2016, 12:12 PM
  #11  
Kobalt
Race Car
 
Kobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 4,848
Received 419 Likes on 197 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spyerx
Try being lazy in a 997 GT3. :-)
:-)

BTW
Took out my 997 GT3 for 7 laps at the Ring after doing about 140 laps in the 991 RS (none in the 997) and for sure, I drove the 997 faster now thanks to the 991, so it might even work the other way around too. (Going from faster to slower car).



Quick Reply: 981 Cayman vs 991 GT3 comparo



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:11 PM.