OT: BMW M2
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How is the DCT (or whatever it's called these days)? I have zero interest in stick but I would like a car to cut back on the miles I'm racking up on the RS (avg. 2K a month right now!). Considering a PDK 718S but M2 makes sense as well.
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DCT is Good, IMO. Fast shifts and can be violent when in full aggressive manual mode. Whats nice is the amount of settings and combinations you can have with the different modes.
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Its a **** box why would it even be OT in a GT3 RS forum - seriously?
Great, why post this - its not fast, it doesn't go round corners that well.........
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Its very ordinary, seconds slower than a 718S round a track - huge margin, DCT 5 years behind PDK - awful interior. Sorry but M2, M3, M4 and M5 are dreadful. BMW sold the M badge a long time ago.
Its a **** box why would it even be OT in a GT3 RS forum - seriously?
Great, why post this - its not fast, it doesn't go round corners that well.........
Its a **** box why would it even be OT in a GT3 RS forum - seriously?
Great, why post this - its not fast, it doesn't go round corners that well.........
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As I mentioned elsewhere, I acknowledged that it's not as good as 718S but a similarly spec'ed 718S is 30,000 euro more expensive. As a 2nd track car to my GT3, it's fun. I like it and that's all that matters. I also note that a number of other Rennlisters on this board have bought one too.
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I was on track at Sonoma last weekend with a guy that had a new M2.
Clearly a skilled driver was driving it, but man that thing ripped and looked like it handled really well.
Clearly a skilled driver was driving it, but man that thing ripped and looked like it handled really well.
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I bought an M2 recently (I have 2k miles now). I replaced a '15 Golf R for my DD. That car was seriously soulless and boring.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
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I bought an M2 recently (I have 2k miles now). I replaced a '15 Golf R for my DD. That car was seriously soulless and boring.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
I owned an E46 M3 and, while that car was great, it lacked low end torque. The S54 begged to be revved to the 8k redline.
The turbocharged I-6 in the M2 lacks the visceral urgency you get with the E46 M3 -- the need to rev and rev and rev some more.
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I bought an M2 recently (I have 2k miles now). I replaced a '15 Golf R for my DD. That car was seriously soulless and boring.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
My fun/track car is the GT4. I wanted something to daily drive that I didn't feel like was a huge compromise. The M2 is definitely it. (oh and BTW, it fits a toddler seat in the back unlike the 718s).
I suppose I have a thing for "parts bin" cars. But I must say the M2 exceeded all of my expectations. It can seriously rip. I have the DCT and that sucker will scratch in 2nd gear with TC on no joke. It sounds really good, handles well. Back road ripping all day long and it just takes it. It's the right size. The M3/4 are just too darn big for tight back road driving.
My major complaint is the car has a coffee cup sized gas tank, and I have a dash rattle. So you guys with high quality standards may be disappointed by the interior.
I tried the M3/4 and ended up buying the M2 because it's the only new car you can buy that feels like a proper successor to the E46 M3.
The torque down low also makes it fun to commute and scoot around town. The DCT is miles above any VW/Audi DSG product. I'm very happy with the car and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily driver.
I pick up my mineral gray manual M2 in 3 weeks.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Statements like this puzzle me.
I owned an E46 M3 and, while that car was great, it lacked low end torque. The S54 begged to be revved to the 8k redline.
The turbocharged I-6 in the M2 lacks the visceral urgency you get with the E46 M3 -- the need to rev and rev and rev some more.
I owned an E46 M3 and, while that car was great, it lacked low end torque. The S54 begged to be revved to the 8k redline.
The turbocharged I-6 in the M2 lacks the visceral urgency you get with the E46 M3 -- the need to rev and rev and rev some more.
I meant as a separate thought that the engine for the M2 is good for DD because of the low end torque, and it pulls hard.
Yeah the S54 is a revver. Still fun though, those cars have a lot of character. The new M3/4 I feel like they are brutally fast but in my short test drive they feel too big.
Just an opinion.
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After only 6 days ownership, I took my new M2 to Hockenheim last Wednesday. Had just under 2,000 km on the clock by the time we got to the track. We then did 350kms on the track before driving another 450kms home. It ran flawlessly all day.
Overall impression is that it's a good fun car. Very well balanced. Easy to drift. Not snappy like M3/M4.
But it did feel a tad slow compared to what I was expecting to the extent that my buddy and I wondered out loud if BMW somehow limits the power until the first service. Will be interesting to see if the car feels any different after it goes in next week.
The day was split into two alternating groups of cars - track/race cars and road cars. There were only about 30 cars in the road car group. Most were GT3s, GT3 RSs and GT4s so it was an interesting comparison running in (or more accurately, trying to run in) a pack of Pcars.
You can see in my video that we actually passed a GT3 but it wasn't being particularly well driven at the time. In a straight line, it disappears into the distance.
On lap 2 you can see just how much faster a well driven GT4 is compared to an M2 and, make no mistakes, we had the accelerator pinned....although we were two up so carrying an extra 170 lbs.
But you know what, it didn't matter that it was slower because my buddy and I spent a lot of time giggling and laughing out loud because it's such a fun car. And isn't that one of the most important factors?
Overall impression is that it's a good fun car. Very well balanced. Easy to drift. Not snappy like M3/M4.
But it did feel a tad slow compared to what I was expecting to the extent that my buddy and I wondered out loud if BMW somehow limits the power until the first service. Will be interesting to see if the car feels any different after it goes in next week.
The day was split into two alternating groups of cars - track/race cars and road cars. There were only about 30 cars in the road car group. Most were GT3s, GT3 RSs and GT4s so it was an interesting comparison running in (or more accurately, trying to run in) a pack of Pcars.
You can see in my video that we actually passed a GT3 but it wasn't being particularly well driven at the time. In a straight line, it disappears into the distance.
On lap 2 you can see just how much faster a well driven GT4 is compared to an M2 and, make no mistakes, we had the accelerator pinned....although we were two up so carrying an extra 170 lbs.
But you know what, it didn't matter that it was slower because my buddy and I spent a lot of time giggling and laughing out loud because it's such a fun car. And isn't that one of the most important factors?
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For me- I think it is good looking car. Proportions are right. Better looking than the out going M3/M4. For the money it looks like a heck of a value proposition for a DD that you just want to throw around.
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My M2 lap times - KW / Re71r tires / carbotech Pads -
wsir - 1:30:6
buttonwillow c13 - 1:57:2
autoclub speedway - 1:49:6
So it does pretty well and is fun
Some sliding at buttonwillow...
wsir - 1:30:6
buttonwillow c13 - 1:57:2
autoclub speedway - 1:49:6
So it does pretty well and is fun
Some sliding at buttonwillow...
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Are M2 allocations readily available yet? I want one but, like with Porsche, I refuse to deal with dealer BS.
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1:57 is really no joke of a laptime. Honestly, no need to go faster than that in a road car sedan without cage / harness.
Alan,
It's not a limited production car, so you should be able to get one from somewhere, but not sure about LA dealers. On the bimmerpost M2 forum, people regularly post MSRP deals.
Alan,
It's not a limited production car, so you should be able to get one from somewhere, but not sure about LA dealers. On the bimmerpost M2 forum, people regularly post MSRP deals.