I agree with everything you said,except the way the M4 GTS looks,but that's subjective.
One point about the McLaren : the reviewers said it feels like a sports car for the first time and not like a super car. I assume that includes the 12C as well. And it makes sense to feel different with the " regular " coil over suspension and hydraulic steering.

 

Nope has street Pirellis, don't think Cups are an option on that car. With Cups, it would probably lap close to a 991.1 GT3.

Even without Cups, it's 1 sec. faster than a GT4 with Cups.

With the 991.2 GTS coming with an additional 30hp, they need to step up their game with the new GT3 to keep ahead of it (reserving Cups for the GT cars is a big part of that strategy).

Seeing how well the turbocharged C2S does at the track gives a small glimpse at what sort of monster the GT2 RS will be (add 250-275 hp and lots more torque, better suspension, downforce, and Cups)

 

And for that matter, isn't the current 991 Turbo S putting down a faster lap than the 991 RS? Seems like there's a developing rivalry within Porsche between the motorsports division and the 'regular' cars?

 

Yep, in some tests the TTS has lapped faster. Since the Turbo S stickers for $12k more than the RS, they probably don't mind too much. But there is no doubt that going to turbocharging for the entire non-GT sports car lineup is putting pressure on the NA-powered GT cars. I think it is partly responsible for the 991.2 GT3 going to 4.0L and all the GT cars probably going turbocharged as well at some point.

My preference would have been for the 992 GT3 to use a high-revving NA version of the 960's turbocharged Flat-8. Now that the 960 is on hold, that could spoil the opportunity. I think the only way to reliably make much more than 500hp with an NA motor is to add cylinders...

I think it's cool that they built the 911R which dispenses with the need to post the absolute fastest laptime, in favor of responsiveness and involvement. Hopefully, the success of this model will spawn more cars with this ethos.

 

I had heard that the flat 8 had problems with vibrations with the opposed cylinders, but I wish they would make a flat 10, that would be the bomb....

 

Hmm, interesting. Of course there is a precedent for Flat-8, 10, 12, and 16 from Porsche's past. Sticking something that long behind the rear axle has its challenges though (I think all of the above were in mid-engine chassis)...

 

Mid-engine flat-12

 

917?

Seems like we're more likely to see a turbocharged Flat-6 or maybe NA Flat-6 with some electric power added...

 

It makes sense that a car within a similar but slightly heavier weight class paired with PDK, RWS, More torque, more HP, and PDCC would lap a faster time then a GT car despite a small tire disadvantage.

With all of that said, the fastest car by far is the NA Dodge Viper which is really impressive.

 

And it has a manual 6spd too (as do the quick Chevy and Mustang too). Don't need dual-clutch to be fast...

 

Right because America is dumb and those brits are so smart - give me a break. I grew up in the UK - visit any council estate in London, they make our trailer trash look like royalty.

 

+350

 

+351

 

Love to see a modern water-cooled 917/30. Twin turbo flat-12 prototype. Then make the NA version for the masses-and the turbocharged version for the 918 buyer...and the aftermarket.....

 

All I see is the roll bar in the back of the BMW. Apparently BMW knows how to read DOT regs and Porsche doesn't.....