Long shot: trade Riviera blue RS for 911R?
06-19-2016, 03:42 AM
#31
I have driven the 911R. It is possibly the most amazing 911 street car ever. It is light, spry, ridiculously fast and engaging at 30 mph. Think '74 3.0 RS and 991 RS had a child with a 997 4.0 gearbox. It is brilliant and pure. After 50 Porsches' including many RSs' and a 959 I find it not only to be one of the great 911s' ever but one of the great sports cars. They tell me that the 991RS will yield a slightly faster lap time but if you are a MT/NA driver there is possibly nothing better short of a McLaren F1. It is everything a Porsche should be.
Would you please elaborate more on your impressions including how it is you got to drive the R already?
06-19-2016, 08:56 AM
#34
I believe these this limited and "numbered" cars without a doubt hold its value mainly due to what these cars offer in terms of performance and uniqueness. It truly is an instant classic! 
Here in Illinois, car brokers are insanely persistent to the point of "pushy" to offer $500K over MSRP for a F12tdf. 911R is also rare pulsing dealers on the secondary market shows nothing. So it would be interesting what prices these 911R would rack up to.
Nevertheless, the 911R is truly a driver's car. To those who have the privilege to own a GT3RS and a 911R, congratulations as having these two would be your Batman and Robin dynamic car duo.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Here in Illinois, car brokers are insanely persistent to the point of "pushy" to offer $500K over MSRP for a F12tdf. 911R is also rare pulsing dealers on the secondary market shows nothing. So it would be interesting what prices these 911R would rack up to.
Nevertheless, the 911R is truly a driver's car. To those who have the privilege to own a GT3RS and a 911R, congratulations as having these two would be your Batman and Robin dynamic car duo.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
06-19-2016, 09:28 AM
#35
I was in Zuffenhausen collecting my '16 Boxster Spyder. I was very fortunate to be invited to get a ride in the car. I could feel that the car was "alive" just sitting in the passenger seat. Then the driver pulled over and said........well you know. Some you my language responding to this post was taken directly from my thank you note written to Porsche within hours of driving the car.
I drove my Boxster Spyder 3500 miles in Europe including a couple laps at the Nurburgring. The Spyder is fantastic.
I drove my Boxster Spyder 3500 miles in Europe including a couple laps at the Nurburgring. The Spyder is fantastic.
06-19-2016, 03:58 PM
#37
Rennlist Member
I'm done with the R.
(Also, $1.54m for an F12 TDF is nuts. Whoever did that should've just waited until more were delivered. Prices will come down. Still a typical premium over MSRP as with most special Ferrari's, but not this insanity.)
06-19-2016, 04:22 PM
#38
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by Suitcase
I have driven the 911R. It is possibly the most amazing 911 street car ever. It is light, spry, ridiculously fast and engaging at 30 mph. Think '74 3.0 RS and 991 RS had a child with a 997 4.0 gearbox. It is brilliant and pure. After 50 Porsches' including many RSs' and a 959 I find it not only to be one of the great 911s' ever but one of the great sports cars. They tell me that the 991RS will yield a slightly faster lap time but if you are a MT/NA driver there is possibly nothing better short of a McLaren F1. It is everything a Porsche should be.
06-19-2016, 04:57 PM
#39
It's very difficult to say which is a better experience without having them side by side. It is at least comparable. My initial impression was that I preferred the R. Ultimately the wing on the 997 May prove a benefit at speed. But for my use I prefer no wing. We all know that the 997 4.0 was the benchmark. My suspicions would be that the R would eclipse the 997.
06-19-2016, 05:31 PM
#40
I have driven the 911R. It is possibly the most amazing 911 street car ever. It is light, spry, ridiculously fast and engaging at 30 mph. Think '74 3.0 RS and 991 RS had a child with a 997 4.0 gearbox. It is brilliant and pure. After 50 Porsches' including many RSs' and a 959 I find it not only to be one of the great 911s' ever but one of the great sports cars. They tell me that the 991RS will yield a slightly faster lap time but if you are a MT/NA driver there is possibly nothing better short of a McLaren F1. It is everything a Porsche should be.
06-19-2016, 06:41 PM
#42
Three Wheelin'
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
06-19-2016, 08:09 PM
#43
911 R
First of all the 911R is not a “so called” parts bin special. It may be true that many parts from other contemporary models were used but the intent and engineering was thoughtfully crafted to be as “pure” a 911 as possible in this over regulated and technology governed world. It is a masterpiece.
Second…. a word about “part bin specials.” I have 2 friends that can boast possibly, no probably, the best 911 collections in the world. I’ve asked both gentlemen which model do they feel is the best 911 ever built. Both men had an identical answer. In 1983 Porsche put together 20 (so called) parts bins specials. The car had a simple looking contemporary but lightweight body, aluminum deck, doors and hood, thin glass, Kevlar bumpers, 15 year old 917 brakes, RSR/953 suspension, and a 10 year old 3.0 liter high butterfly RSR motor. I seem to remember it even had VW window cranks. It was street legal and weighed around 2200 lbs. This was a “parts bin special” if ever there was. It’s called the SC/RS.
Second…. a word about “part bin specials.” I have 2 friends that can boast possibly, no probably, the best 911 collections in the world. I’ve asked both gentlemen which model do they feel is the best 911 ever built. Both men had an identical answer. In 1983 Porsche put together 20 (so called) parts bins specials. The car had a simple looking contemporary but lightweight body, aluminum deck, doors and hood, thin glass, Kevlar bumpers, 15 year old 917 brakes, RSR/953 suspension, and a 10 year old 3.0 liter high butterfly RSR motor. I seem to remember it even had VW window cranks. It was street legal and weighed around 2200 lbs. This was a “parts bin special” if ever there was. It’s called the SC/RS.
06-19-2016, 08:37 PM
#44
Rennlist Member
It's amazing to think this way, but very true given the market! Really cool actually to see cars reach an appreciation level short term.