Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
(Post 13208326)
WRONG, I buy cars to drive and not to invest in...that's what real estate and trading stocks/options are for. I sell cars that I don't drive, simple as that. I'm a proud non-collecting driver who drives over 50k miles a year! :D
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Hopefully, photos of some of these PTS 911Rs will make their way to RL.
Originally Posted by BBMGT3
(Post 13208240)
I don't want a car that holds/appreciates in value
I want a car that depreciates.
Originally Posted by bronson7
(Post 13207050)
Nothing surprises me with the PTS wishes. PAG is at it again.
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
(Post 13208233)
There will always be sour grape syndrome.
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
(Post 13208233)
There will always be sour grape syndrome. Porsche has 991 very happy 911R customers. Bet you those 991 customers buy more Porsches in a year than many whining customers, who might buy one every 5 year. Porsche made only 500 GT2RS, almost half that of the 911R. No one complained about not getting one. They also made only 600 997 GT3RS 4.0, no one complained about not getting one either. You are just bitter that you couldn't buy a money making car. Period.
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Cleaning lady have spoken.
Around 50 PTS cars worldwide. 15 PTS cars for North America (14 cars for US and 1 car for Canada). And black, yellow and orange does not count as true PTS because they are painted in-house. True PTS cars are painted in a 3rd party facility. |
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 13222605)
Cleaning lady have spoken. Around 50 PTS cars worldwide. 15 PTS cars for North America (14 cars for US and 1 car for Canada). And black, yellow and orange does not count as true PTS because they are painted in-house. True PTS cars are painted in a 3rd party facility.
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A contact at Porsche Exclusive NA told me that they simply gathered the names of 911R buyers and sent them to Germany. Porsche HQ then picked as they wanted based on PTS production availability. If I were wealthy I think I'd be more upset than I am being a peasant, just because I couldn't get what I wanted. lmao
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PTS & the R...
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 13222605)
Around 50 PTS cars worldwide. That was told to me last month by someone ordering an R from 'Porsche France'. So that sounds about right.
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 13222605)
15 PTS cars for North America (14 cars for US and 1 car for Canada).
And black, yellow and orange does not count as true PTS because they are painted in-house. or $3140 as 'Special Color', on the 991! Yet, on the 911R, PAG will charge you $6,950 for the 'privilege' of having these common hues! 'True' PTS is when you, as a customer, have the full range of approved 'deviating' colors available, which now covers 5 pages! :thumbup: See post #2464 https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13222806
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 13222605)
True PTS cars are painted in a 3rd party facility.
:banghead: Who told you that? Saludos, Eduardo Scottsdale |
Originally Posted by Z356
(Post 13223980)
That was told to me last month by someone ordering an R from 'Porsche France'. So that sounds about right. No, they are not PTS because these are $0 cost standard color offerings, or $3140 as 'Special Color', on the 991! Yet, on the 911R, PAG will charge you $6,950 for the 'privilege' of having these common hues! 'True' PTS is when you, as a customer, have the full range of approved 'deviating' colors available, which now covers 5 pages! :thumbup: See post #2464 https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13222806 Say what? :banghead: Who told you that? Saludos, Eduardo Scottsdale |
Originally Posted by signes
(Post 13210270)
Paging Anonymous918...
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Originally Posted by Larryf
(Post 13211924)
This thread was about PTS and not getting PTS. Your constant soapbox diatribes are getting annoying to be honest. Keep them to the other 911R thread where you've been quite vocal and you can spar with wolf and anon 918, or back with your chirping on the RS Ebay price thread
Btw, I'd love to see some PTS Rs...the whole PTS process is such a black box. |
Originally Posted by unotaz
(Post 13224005)
For the 911R, I was told that the PTS cars are sent to a 3rd party to do the painting.
This is why PTS is so limited on the R. At least this is what I was told. :confused: that particular option has been quite limited for a while now, especially on the gt3, gt3 RS, gt4 & 981 Spyder. The 911R will be built in Zuffenhausen & they have the ability to do PTS on all of these cars right there. Their paint facilities are 'State of the Art'. It's just a question of logistics re: the strict procedures PAG follows to allow PTS for their cars & the coordination of the painted parts (exterior & interior) which come from sub-contractors & outside vendors. PTS is not a high priority at PAG for the production engineers. And until it becomes so, these bottlenecks will continue to exist & PTS will remain 'difficult' to get in certain high-demand models. But I am curious. What third party painter do you think they would be sent to? Earl Scheib GmbH in nearby Fellbach? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a15faa0df1.png :corn: :icon107: Saludos, Eduardo Scottsdale |
Slate grey 915
I am one of the 24 Very lucky French guy to get an R
My car is currently ordered in black by I asked to my dealer to get it in slate grey color code 915. Eduardo helped me a lot to make the right choice and i thank him again for his great help. It was indeed in the color palette in 1967. My request is currently under study at PAG as all the 991 R request. I confirm that I heard that they will be around 50 PTS cars worldwide. PAG is the only one to decide. Porsche exclusive team in zuffenhausen doesn't even know how the choice is made and who decide. I know that at least one guy in France asked for classic grey. I am confident that it will work. We should have an answer quiet soon now. I also heard that one 991 R will be given to one Porsche employee after that a lottery take place. In europe it appears that a couple of exclusive car dealers are requesting 200 k rue premium for a car. As I am a huge fan of this car I would like to start a registry of all the 991R with order details, color, VIN and country. I am thinking o something similar to the one existing on the Ferrari 360 challenge Stradale www.challenge-Stradale.com If I have enough people interested I am willing to launch a worldwide club and a dedicated website. If some future 991 R owner are interested please send me a MP Regards Sebastien |
That would be a very interesting registry. Thanks for doing that Sebastien!
Best wishes with obtaining PTS!! Slate grey is 615 (I'm sure you knew that, as 915 must be a typo), and is a perfect choice! It would be amazing if you could get car 013/991 (chassis 13 was slate grey in 1967). BTW does anyone know if feuerrot (86D currently approved code) is the same colour as the one of the same name that appeared on the 911R in 1967? |
Originally Posted by Targa75
(Post 13224792)
I am one of the 24 Very lucky French guy to get an R
My car is currently ordered in black by I asked to my dealer to get it in slate grey color code 915. Eduardo helped me a lot to make the right choice and i thank him again for his great help. It was indeed in the color palette in 1967. My request is currently under study at PAG as all the 991 R request. I confirm that I heard that they will be around 50 PTS cars worldwide. PAG is the only one to decide. Porsche exclusive team in zuffenhausen doesn't even know how the choice is made and who decide. I know that at least one guy in France asked for classic grey. I am confident that it will work. We should have an answer quiet soon now. I also heard that one 991 R will be given to one Porsche employee after that a lottery take place. In europe it appears that a couple of exclusive car dealers are requesting 200 k rue premium for a car. As I am a huge fan of this car I would like to start a registry of all the 991R with order details, color, VIN and country. I am thinking o something similar to the one existing on the Ferrari 360 challenge Stradale www.challenge-Stradale.com If I have enough people interested I am willing to launch a worldwide club and a dedicated website. If some future 991 R owner are interested please send me a MP Regards Sebastien Blueflame |
Originally Posted by Z356
(Post 13224466)
I don't know if you have been following PTS at Porsche closely, but
that particular option has been quite limited for a while now, especially on the gt3, gt3 RS, gt4 & 981 Spyder. The 911R will be built in Zuffenhausen & they have the ability to do PTS on all of these cars right there. Their paint facilities are 'State of the Art'. It's just a question of logistics re: the strict procedures PAG follows to allow PTS for their cars & the coordination of the painted parts (exterior & interior) which come from sub-contractors & outside vendors. PTS is not a high priority at PAG for the production engineers. And until it becomes so, these bottlenecks will continue to exist & PTS will remain 'difficult' to get in certain high-demand models. But I am curious. What third party painter do you think they would be sent to? Earl Scheib GmbH in nearby Fellbach? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a15faa0df1.png :corn: :icon107: Saludos, Eduardo Scottsdale Unotaz is correct. True PTS are sent off to a 3rd party for all models be it a Stuttgart production car or Leipzig production car. That's why the limited capacity. It also takes time to validate and inspect the finish to pass Porsche's own standard. The so called 'fake' PTS like the black, orange and yellow on the R are painted in house, that part is correct. |
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