RS roof
#17
To me it's one of the things that makes the car special even if it's not a huge difference or can be felt. I remember hearing somewhere that back in the 60's some owners received their Ferrari's with alloy bodies and complained that the panels were too easy to damage and too hard/expensive to fix. Now they'd be saying jackpot.
And I don't think this really limits the RS production. How many are for sale right now? They are just being held hostage.
And I don't think this really limits the RS production. How many are for sale right now? They are just being held hostage.
#18
The roof is 1kg lighter than a carbon roof according to AP in this video at the 3 minute mark.
I thought I remembered that number from this video and others during the launch of the car last year. It took me a little bit to find it because Porsche does not talk about the weight savings in their literature online. But I also believe that a carbon roof saves about 1-2kg from an aluminum roof. So net savings from a GT3 roof I would put in the 2-3kg range.
I thought I remembered that number from this video and others during the launch of the car last year. It took me a little bit to find it because Porsche does not talk about the weight savings in their literature online. But I also believe that a carbon roof saves about 1-2kg from an aluminum roof. So net savings from a GT3 roof I would put in the 2-3kg range.
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The roof is 1kg lighter than a carbon roof according to AP in this video at the 3 minute mark.
I thought I remembered that number from this video and others during the launch of the car last year. It took me a little bit to find it because Porsche does not talk about the weight savings in their literature online. But I also believe that a carbon roof saves about 1-2kg from an aluminum roof. So net savings from a GT3 roof I would put in the 2-3kg range.
I thought I remembered that number from this video and others during the launch of the car last year. It took me a little bit to find it because Porsche does not talk about the weight savings in their literature online. But I also believe that a carbon roof saves about 1-2kg from an aluminum roof. So net savings from a GT3 roof I would put in the 2-3kg range.
#21
BINGO! You broke the code! But it goes along with the RS's "racy fabric door pulls" which Porsche admits save no weight over the GT3's more convenient door handles, and the 6 feet of additional air inlet ducting required to use the Turbo's Racy Rear Fender Intercooler Ducts despite the tortuous multi-turn air path getting air to the Engine. I would bet those longer inlet ducts add far more weight than the roof's exotic metal saves.
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#24
BINGO! You broke the code! But it goes along with the RS's "racy fabric door pulls" which Porsche admits save no weight over the GT3's more convenient door handles, and the 6 feet of additional air inlet ducting required to use the Turbo's Racy Rear Fender Intercooler Ducts despite the tortuous multi-turn air path getting air to the Engine. I would bet those longer inlet ducts add far more weight than the roof's exotic metal saves.
#26
Because they can
It was tested on the 911 GT3 R hybrid. It's the world's first magnesium outer part in series production. It shows they can push development of new processes, technologies, and supply chains. It saves 30% from the aluminum 991 panel (3.2 kg down to 2.2 kg). It's an estimated 24% lighter than an equivalent CFRP panel. That weight is saved at the top of the car. It's a marketable USP. They did it because they wanted to show that they can and will continue to push for a better, more exciting car.
#27
It was tested on the 911 GT3 R hybrid. It's the world's first magnesium outer part in series production. It shows they can push development of new processes, technologies, and supply chains. It saves 30% from the aluminum 991 panel (3.2 kg down to 2.2 kg). It's an estimated 24% lighter than an equivalent CFRP panel. That weight is saved at the top of the car. It's a marketable USP. They did it because they wanted to show that they can and will continue to push for a better, more exciting car.
#28
nailed it
I bet if they gave buyers a no cost choice between the mag roof and a lithium battery, there would be zero mag roofs.
And if they gave buyers a no cost choice between CLs and 5 studs, there would be a lot of 5 studded Gt3s out there.
And finally, if they buyers a no cost choice between a strap and a real handle on the door, there would be a lot of handles out there.
How many GT3RS's are radio and A/C delete? Very few.
If buyers really wanted a dedicated track car they would buy a Cup.
And if they gave buyers a no cost choice between CLs and 5 studs, there would be a lot of 5 studded Gt3s out there.
And finally, if they buyers a no cost choice between a strap and a real handle on the door, there would be a lot of handles out there.
How many GT3RS's are radio and A/C delete? Very few.
If buyers really wanted a dedicated track car they would buy a Cup.
#29
Why such angst about a roof? If it helps them advance adoption of another lightweight material and more cost effective production methods, I'm all for it. The weight savings appears negligible but there is a benefit and many small benefits add up to large ones. It may take a lot of effort today but again who cares? May pay dividends down the road.