Are DFI engines unreliable?
#16
Ok, that explanation is helpful. Thanks! I guess we'll have to wait and see if we start seeing cars coming in with misfires of this sort. I haven't heard of this being a problem in particular, in either the current 9A1 or the post-2009 Mezger DFI engines. (I don't want to make this a Mezger vs 9A1 debate either!!! That dead horse has been flogged enough already.)
I was certainly surprised to see the amount of carbon buildup on those pistons though!
#17
That's a bit of a reckless headline to a thread... This has been an accusation of DFI engines for awhile now. It's not quite that black and white. Here is a nice explanation: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-engines-.html Mj
Sorry about the pompous title...that was all I could think of at that moment. Please feel free to suggest a more appropriate title and I will try to change it...
#18
Possible explanation?
Excellence Magazine article posted by dadio a while back:
Porsche's official answer is....
Last fall we had an opportunity to ask a Porsche AG tour guide, Gerard, just why those DFI tips are often sooty black? His answer: To heat the catalytic converters rapidly during the cold start cycle, the DFI system deliberately runs a rich mixture to ignite fuel with the exhaust valve not fully closed. That heats the cats quickly to their optimum temperature and better meets emissions standards — the side effect is the carbon residue on the tips.
Excellence Magazine article posted by dadio a while back:
Porsche's official answer is....
Last fall we had an opportunity to ask a Porsche AG tour guide, Gerard, just why those DFI tips are often sooty black? His answer: To heat the catalytic converters rapidly during the cold start cycle, the DFI system deliberately runs a rich mixture to ignite fuel with the exhaust valve not fully closed. That heats the cats quickly to their optimum temperature and better meets emissions standards — the side effect is the carbon residue on the tips.
#20
#21
Trade offs to everything...Cars are only designed to last long enough to last the warranty period it seems.
If I recall, it's recommended to walnut blast the intake at 30-50k. I don't think this is normally too expensive (~$500?), but I have no idea how difficult this is in the 991/981
If I recall, it's recommended to walnut blast the intake at 30-50k. I don't think this is normally too expensive (~$500?), but I have no idea how difficult this is in the 991/981
#22
#23
Possible explanation?
Excellence Magazine article posted by dadio a while back:
Porsche's official answer is....
Last fall we had an opportunity to ask a Porsche AG tour guide, Gerard, just why those DFI tips are often sooty black? His answer: To heat the catalytic converters rapidly during the cold start cycle, the DFI system deliberately runs a rich mixture to ignite fuel with the exhaust valve not fully closed. That heats the cats quickly to their optimum temperature and better meets emissions standards — the side effect is the carbon residue on the tips.
Excellence Magazine article posted by dadio a while back:
Porsche's official answer is....
Last fall we had an opportunity to ask a Porsche AG tour guide, Gerard, just why those DFI tips are often sooty black? His answer: To heat the catalytic converters rapidly during the cold start cycle, the DFI system deliberately runs a rich mixture to ignite fuel with the exhaust valve not fully closed. That heats the cats quickly to their optimum temperature and better meets emissions standards — the side effect is the carbon residue on the tips.
#25
Absolutely. That is what some manufacturers are testing : port injection combined with direct injection. The port side injects water in some systems,which is basically such a fine mist that turns right away into vapors. Those vapors clean the back of the valves like nobody's business. And others are using port injection with gasoline,only that it's being sprayed on demand depending on certain conditions...like when more power is required from the engine.
#26
Trade offs to everything...Cars are only designed to last long enough to last the warranty period it seems.
If I recall, it's recommended to walnut blast the intake at 30-50k. I don't think this is normally too expensive (~$500?), but I have no idea how difficult this is in the 991/981
If I recall, it's recommended to walnut blast the intake at 30-50k. I don't think this is normally too expensive (~$500?), but I have no idea how difficult this is in the 991/981
I'll ask my shop's engine builder about this next time I'm in there. They do quite a bit of work on 9A1 motors but mostly turbos.