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Old 10-03-2015 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gt2urbo
agree with richk. to bad its not a stick only 911 variant would cut out alot of buyers "justin Bebiers" looking for the next coolest car to be seen in. I personally know of a few new gt3 owners that have never had a previous model gt3 or a 911...
First time GT3 owner (and first time Porsche owner since 22 years ago with my old 944 Turbo) here.
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Right.

At the end of the day, for us folks who either have a 3 or an RS, it's all good.

Let the speculators speculate.
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What about us folk who don't yet have either??
saw this one coming from the next stoplight
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by abcut973
Honestly if I had extra $400k laying around I would buy me another house somewhere. I can't understand these folks spending that much mark up!
Old 10-03-2015 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Our time might be better spent pounding sand.

PAG is not going to increase demand to drive out speculators in the market place. No matter how much screaming we do here on Rennlist.
why not? make more cars make more profit, with the VAG diesel issue i think some more income might help
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dark knight
why not? make more cars make more profit, with the VAG diesel issue i think some more income might help
We've already talked about this.

The profit margins on GT cars is one of the lowest in the Porsche lineup, if not the lowest.

Conceivably, PAG could triple production of the GT3 and the marginal profits from that additional production would barely amount to a rounding error in terms of covering the potential fines/penalties associated with the diesel emissions issue, most of which will probably be covered by existing reserves or insurance.
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
We've already talked about this. The profit margins on GT cars is one of the lowest in the Porsche lineup, if not the lowest. Conceivably, PAG could triple production of the GT3 and the marginal profits from that additional production would barely amount to a rounding error in terms of covering the potential fines/penalties associated with the diesel emissions issue, most of which will probably be covered by existing reserves or insurance.
So Porsche makes the GT3/RS as a favor to the true enthusiast?
Old 10-03-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. G
So Porsche makes the GT3/RS as a favor to the true enthusiast?
GT cars are halo cars.

They bring a certain panache and exclusivity to the brand.

Don't get me wrong, GT cars not loss leaders. PAG is making money off of each GT3 and RS, just not nearly as much as say a base Carrera or a Macan.
Old 10-03-2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
GT cars are halo cars.

They bring a certain panache and exclusivity to the brand.

Don't get me wrong, GT cars not loss leaders. PAG is making money off of each GT3 and RS, just not nearly as much as say a base Carrera or a Macan.
Do you have empirical data to support this statement?

Typically, the more 'enthusiast-based' models are a higher margin product.
Old 10-03-2015 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutintib
saw this one coming from the next stoplight
; )

Additionally, I'm not some punk coming out of a 'boy racer' car...or a douche just wanting to be seen in a 'cool car'.... Or a poser just wanting to drive a 'race car' on the street...or a jack-hole looking to flip for profit.
I'm a racing enthusiast looking for the most appropriate street-able track car for my needs, wants and budget.

Isn't that the exact target for the GT3?
Old 10-03-2015 | 04:41 PM
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A lot of folks are waiting on the side lines (including myself) for Porsche to prove this hardware or some derivative of it in racing campaigns. Until that happens, the full demand for the RS is not in the mix.
Old 10-03-2015 | 07:20 PM
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A Wall Street friend ones told me, if you jump into a cab and he gives you advice on how to invest your money. Sell everything and run! The crash is coming. I see the same tendencies in today's car market. Every car magazine and even non car enthusiast are talking about what cars we should buy as "investments"!
Old 10-03-2015 | 08:59 PM
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Old 10-03-2015 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dark knight
why not? make more cars make more profit, with the VAG diesel issue i think some more income might help
Originally Posted by PhilT3
Do you have empirical data to support this statement?

Typically, the more 'enthusiast-based' models are a higher margin product.
+1 I too would like to see proof that the SUVs have much higher margins than GT cars. The GT cars sell for 50-100% more than SUVs so I would venture to say that the GT cars have higher ABSOLUTE profit dollars than profits for SUVs. But hey, maybe someone can prove me wrong.
Old 10-03-2015 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilT3
Do you have empirical data to support this statement?

Typically, the more 'enthusiast-based' models are a higher margin product.
It's a pretty well accepted adage in the automotive industry.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-16869432
Old 10-04-2015 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
It's a pretty well accepted adage in the automotive industry.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-16869432
Ummm, not many other auto makers sell halo cars like the GT cars at such high prices ($100k+). Can't make a blanket assumption like that with Porsche.


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