Chris Smith Racing Center Bypass
#32
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Thread Starter
Luckily for me she was at the beach with her sister. No Dad's allowed!
I like the sound from the video. Seems a little bit cleaner to me. And does seem louder. Not a fan of the single "butthole" tip but do like the larger pipes before the tip. I think GMG is still the top dog in this game for its design and sound. Thanks for all the side by side comparison.. You are taking the guess work out of for others.
Akra's sound is too thin for me. I just don't like the way titanium sounds. That, and there is no way I'm dropping $10K+ on an exhaust.
#33
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I should have sold you / given you my GMG. If you hadn't gone with the Chris Smith experiment.....
Unfortunately when we had that txt conversation, I thought the butthole was going to be the deal breaker for you.
Unfortunately when we had that txt conversation, I thought the butthole was going to be the deal breaker for you.
#34
Drifting
http://www.gmgracing.com/store/2015/...r-section.html
#35
I had researched before hand and understood how the exhaust worked. Delisting the valves was never a choice as I feel a lot went into this for power and sound.
Center section replacement seemed the best alternative as not much would ever be gained in power without replacing the cats, so mostly the sound was the only thing on the table.
Looking at design only, as the videos mostly sounded the same, I called during the group buy on the GMG. Sadly, a not so good PET scan meant more treatment and more risk so I sidestepped for the time being.
Center section replacement seemed the best alternative as not much would ever be gained in power without replacing the cats, so mostly the sound was the only thing on the table.
Looking at design only, as the videos mostly sounded the same, I called during the group buy on the GMG. Sadly, a not so good PET scan meant more treatment and more risk so I sidestepped for the time being.
#37
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Thread Starter
So the GMG rear muffler replacement is your top choice? I'm assuming thats what you're referring to.
http://www.gmgracing.com/store/2015/...r-section.html
http://www.gmgracing.com/store/2015/...r-section.html
#38
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Thread Starter
I had researched before hand and understood how the exhaust worked. Delisting the valves was never a choice as I feel a lot went into this for power and sound.
Center section replacement seemed the best alternative as not much would ever be gained in power without replacing the cats, so mostly the sound was the only thing on the table.
Looking at design only, as the videos mostly sounded the same, I called during the group buy on the GMG. Sadly, a not so good PET scan meant more treatment and more risk so I sidestepped for the time being.
Center section replacement seemed the best alternative as not much would ever be gained in power without replacing the cats, so mostly the sound was the only thing on the table.
Looking at design only, as the videos mostly sounded the same, I called during the group buy on the GMG. Sadly, a not so good PET scan meant more treatment and more risk so I sidestepped for the time being.
#39
RL Community Team
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I don't think it matters which center muffler bypass one uses, there is not going to be an appreciable (or even worthwhile) difference in sound (in terms of tone, depth and pitch) until the car reaches past 6000, or maybe 7000, rpm.
So for daily use, cuz no one drives like a maniac by revving the engine that high, most bypasses are going to be, as they say, a difference without a distinction.
Now, if we're talking side muffler deletes (with or without valves) then, it's a different story. But here again, it matters little which brand of side muffler delete setup you use (MM, Cargraphics, etc.), they're all going to sound the same, but they will all sound different than a center muffler bypass system will.
Just my 0.02 of course.
So for daily use, cuz no one drives like a maniac by revving the engine that high, most bypasses are going to be, as they say, a difference without a distinction.
Now, if we're talking side muffler deletes (with or without valves) then, it's a different story. But here again, it matters little which brand of side muffler delete setup you use (MM, Cargraphics, etc.), they're all going to sound the same, but they will all sound different than a center muffler bypass system will.
Just my 0.02 of course.
#40
Drifting
Speaking of sound, when I was at NJMP last week, I got the nicest compliment. An owner of a beautiful 996 RSR (which is ear splitting LOUD) said he was up on the tower when I was going past on the straight. He said the car sounded really nice.
Made my day.
I have a stock exhaust.
Made my day.
I have a stock exhaust.
#42
Burning Brakes
They do sound noticably different in person but certainly not enough to warrant a change from one to the other. I think GMG is the way to go unless you already have a bypass. My advice is stick with what you have. My little experiment taught me the difference is too minimal to waste the money.
I liked the sound of the CRS bypass. To me its a little throatier that the Shark but not as loud as GMG. After the Smokies run I called CSR and almost pulled the trigger on one. It seems like a good compromise. However, I just couldn't get over the fact that the butt hole doesn't fit the car very well, and since there is no performance gain its not worth compromising the aesthetics.
So, as I think Matt concluded, right now the Shark is probably the best all around bypass.
Matt, Thank you for all of the cool projects you take on and share with the community. We learn a lot from you. Its much appreciated.
#43
Nordschleife Master
#45
I really like the way it sounds. I wasn't sure about it, but the single "butthole" look is growing on me. I still have some adjustment to do. It's a little off center.
One of the funnier lines on RL: "... but the single "butthole" look is growing on me." As if you are approaching life from a "dual-butthole" norm?
Please tell me you've tried the RSS X-pipe? Did I miss your trial somewhere? The X-pipe on a 7.2GT3 was pure street car acoustic perfection.
One of the funnier lines on RL: "... but the single "butthole" look is growing on me." As if you are approaching life from a "dual-butthole" norm?
Please tell me you've tried the RSS X-pipe? Did I miss your trial somewhere? The X-pipe on a 7.2GT3 was pure street car acoustic perfection.