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Old 06-27-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
$50k over might look like a bargain if there are no more allocations to come. Many of us have been waiting a month now since our orders were changed to PTS for a production date, there is the UV date uncertainty, the LWB issue etc. PAG supposedly made $0 margin on each 997 4.0 delivered and who knows if they're making enough on these to want to keep pushing them out in light of all of the logistics and manufacturing problems they're clearly having.
I would say that makes sense considering they only made 600, and it's the dealers that make the mark ups. PAG makes the money on the brand so a loss on product still drives the cult mentality we have for the brand(: no wrong answer here, just how much coin you want to lay out that meets your personal value proposition.
Old 06-27-2015 | 08:27 AM
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I would agree, if he were keeping it. But paying 50k over, then selling it 5 months from now? And he won't get his car till say October seems kind of silly to me. But what do I know, I drive a BMW .
Old 06-27-2015 | 08:29 AM
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Who knows what his result will be, I don't think any of us predicted the market for a regular 3 would be $10k to $20k+ over for used ones. If it was me I would keep the $50k towards a Singer or new track car.
Old 06-27-2015 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by US1368
Hello everyone,

I am being asked to pay over sticker for a 2016 GT3 RS. Its about five 10s over. I am undecided due to uncertainty about the future pricing of these specialty cars. I am also looking to sell by December 2015. Thoughts please, thank you.
I have a long time friend that owns a 996 GT3RS, 997 GT3RS 3.8 and 997 GT3RS 4.0. He paid $20K -$30K over MSRP for all of those cars. I also thought he was crazy to do that. All those cars have maintained their values through the years and are now trading hands for far more than MSRP and his original inflated costs.
Meanwhile he has been driving and enjoying those cars for 5-10 years and can easily recover every penny plus make a handsome profit if he chose to sell them.
So was he really as crazy as I thought he was?
Judging by the premiums being paid currently for used 991 GT3s, I can only conclude prices will continue to rise once production ceases - and I see no reason
why the 991GT3RS 4.0 would not follow the same path that all previous limited
editions of GT Porsches have followed. As an investment, IMHO it is infinitely
safer AND surely far more enjoyable than Stocks, Bonds or myriad investment alternatives. I also never believed the many standard Air Cooled 911s I've owned
through the years would now be worth 5-10 times the original price I paid for them. If you can comfortably afford it without sacrifice, and believe it would add much enjoyment to your life, my advice to you would be to go for it. We all only live once.
Old 06-27-2015 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
Warren Buffett drives a Lincoln (:- Enjoy life have fun, but personally I can buy any car and I will not pay over. Just a value principal for me to blow what someone may make in a year or two. However each to his own.
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Old 06-27-2015 | 03:27 PM
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Old 06-28-2015 | 02:33 PM
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I greatly appreciate everyone's input. This discussion has been like my sociology 101 many years ago. Everyone has a point and each has a different perception in life. I have a humble background. For me, I respect the value of money profoundly. GT3 RS is a very special car, however, I declined to take it over sticker and let it comes to me in the near future...
Old 06-28-2015 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by US1368
I greatly appreciate everyone's input. This discussion has been like my sociology 101 many years ago. Everyone has a point and each has a different perception in life. I have a humble background. For me, I respect the value of money profoundly. GT3 RS is a very special car, however, I declined to take it over sticker and let it comes to me in the near future...
IMHO, a good decision.
Old 06-28-2015 | 03:23 PM
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Good choice
Old 06-28-2015 | 07:43 PM
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Smart man. Enjoy the car you have now until the RS comes to you...and it will.
Old 06-28-2015 | 10:48 PM
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50K over may be why dealer still has unfilled allocation?
Old 06-29-2015 | 11:07 AM
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Your state also benefits in collecting additional tax on the premium. Consider the added tax a contribution to society.
Old 06-30-2015 | 10:39 PM
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If you have a longer time frame, paying over MSRP may make sense...but super risky if you plan to sell in a such a short time frame. GL though
Old 06-30-2015 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by US1368
I greatly appreciate everyone's input. This discussion has been like my sociology 101 many years ago. Everyone has a point and each has a different perception in life. I have a humble background. For me, I respect the value of money profoundly. GT3 RS is a very special car, however, I declined to take it over sticker and let it comes to me in the near future...
Dealers gossip with each other. If a few buyers pay $50K over (a BIG mark up) other dealers will soon follow, more dealer builds, fewer cars for the rest of us.
Old 06-30-2015 | 11:15 PM
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There is a small segment of the population w/ nearly unlimited means who purchase what they want when they want it regardless of cost. Dealers live to make sales to such individuals and believe as an article of faith that the right car at the right time will attract such a buyer, premiums notwithstanding. Porsche aids and abets this dealer mentality with their allocation procedures. The only solution is to just say no to the process if the premium asked is of any consequence to you as the buyer.


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