Stockholm996TT

So, I guess many of us now have the 991 GT3 RS on order. I saw the car live last week in Geneva and was blown away. It has so many new visual features that it almost looks like a different car than the 991 it is based on (many of these features you will only fully realize when seeing the car live). Especially in terms of aerodynamics this should be a whole new level for a 911. The car looks like an absolute monster and will drive like one too. I think it is spot on and just what I absolutely love about the Porsche GT cars (but I will not let my manual RS 4.0 go!).

After seeing the 991 GT3 RS in Geneva (next to the Cayman GT4 and the 918 Spyder) I started to think about a potential 991 GT2 and GT2 RS.

Imagine Porsche putting a 600-650 hk turbo engine and PDK into the 1400 kg Porsche GT3/ GT3 RS platform. That would be quite a car!

But how would we want Porsche to do such a car? I guess with the success of the 918 Spyder (I drove it twice, but never ordered) there could be different ways to approach such a car:

- Rear wheel drive, or four wheel drive?
- Pure petrol drive unit, or some form of hybrid?
- Even more extensive use of carbon fibre and other lightweight materials in order to keep weight down to a minimum, but possibly at the cost of a more expensive car?
- Subdued looks, or something louder with visible carbon and even stripes?
- Traditional shape, or stronger visual differentiation from the 991?

I would argue for keeping the basic approach with rear wheel drive, traditional engine, as much carbon as possible (even if the prices goes up a bit) and subdued looks, but with visible carbon and traditional 991 look.

Let the discussion begin!

ScottKelly911

well since we're day dreaming, let's make this fun.

GT2RS:
-Engine: 720hp/680tq 4.0 liter TT (high revving 8k redline would be a first for a turbo charged P-car engine and and could really make it fun and comparable to the experience you get from the high revving 9k range of the GT3)
-DFI
Chassis and drivetrain: Same basic platform as GT3RS
-Rear wheel drive
-Rear wheel steering
-PDK-S
-PCCB with 6-piston front calipers and 4-piston rears
-Forged Magnesium Centerlock Wheels, Fr. 10 x 20 wrapped in 285/30/20 tires, Rr 13 x 21 wrapped in 345/25/21 tires.
-GT3RS suspension with a few Porsche Motorsport touches like adjustable links
-lightweight Battery
Body construction: AP said that on the GT3RS they chose a magnesium roof over CF because it was 1 kg lighter than CF, so how about stepping this up a bit.
-Magnesium Roof
-Magnesium hood for weight savings if the same type of gains over CF can be made.
-Magnesium doors instead of Aluminum for weight savings
-CF GT3RS fenders
-CF rear decklid (black plastic parts of the GT3RS decklid made in CF for the GT2RS)
-CF GT3RS rear wing but make it bare CF (painted body color optional)
-GT3RS Front Fender vent vains in CF instead of plastic
-Rear fender Turbo scoops in CF (more for bling, but will look really cool)
-Mirrors in bare CF
Interior:
-GT3RS Bucket seats with holes for sub belts on both driver and passenger side
-lightened sound deadening
-lightweight carpet
-Door Cards sans Door pockets for weight savings
-CF Door latch (get rid of the stupid straps that really aren't any lighter than a proper door latch. They made sense back in '73 on the Carrera RS and on the 964 RS/RSA when those assemblies were much heavier than the straps, but now it's not much of a difference and even the Cup cars don't use the pull straps anymore)
-Frunk, Simplify it and take out all that plastic that makes it look so refined on the current road cars, use lightweight carpeting (perlon?).

Ok that's all I have for now, Feel free to add to our dream GT2RS. But this with it's lighter weight, more power and a bigger contact patch, I could see this GT2RS as described above in the 7:04 range and throwing the gauntlet down at the Ring! The Nismo GTR's 7:14 at less than half the price of what the above GT2RS would command is still the best buy for the money, but finally we'd have a proper 911 that would destroy it and be a lot more fun to drive while doing so What'ya guys think? Porsche, please build this!

bronson7

Would PTS be an option?

usctrojanGT3

Only during a 1-day window.

ScottKelly911

fxz

4 wheels drive too heavy

All that magnesium would push
price into 488 650s territory, not good
but i guess is P marketing trying to explore that
way, all depends hiw quick 991 RS experiment
will go ( all bla bla not much Motorsport contents)

better spend R D budget on CF chassis rather (992)

I will buy a 488 then if such a
magnesium 991 GT2 ( basically a 991 Turbo S 2wd lighter)

(if any) Awaiting a 4.2 RS NA or 4.0 NA and any kind of light Kers

williambnj

Any more thoughts or updates? Apparently it has been confirmed there will be a gt2rs at the end of the 991 run

GreenLantern

Far too early for this, to be honest.

First we need the 991.2's to drop (with the new engines). Then we need to see what's in store for the 991.2 Turbo / Turbo S. Then we can more appropriately speculate on the engine / performance of the 991.2 GT2 / GT2 RS.

bronson7

There's just too much speculation on too many future, potential cars. For now we just need to relax and live in the moment. Let's enjoy what we have now.

GreenLantern

997rs4.0

Always fun to speculate. I'm thinking the 991rs could well be the last N/A RS! Makes perfect sense to follow the 991.2 turbo engines with an 991gt2RS?

tcsracing1

991 GT2 650hp. $250k

991 GT2RS 750hp $350k.

997rs4.0

Let's hope that $350k car has 4WD!😃😃

W8MM

Here's some speculation based on past Porsche behavior.

The 997 GT2RS was over 10 seconds faster on the Nordschleife than the barely finished production Carrera GT. The GT2RS wasn't announced until the CGT was safely sold out so as not to be upstaged.

2018 is far enough removed from the end of 918 deliveries that one might speculate about its technology filtering down to the 991 GT2RS. Maybe the 918's hybrid AWD scheme will be adapted to the 991 layout. Perhaps the 991TT/S motor combined with a hybrid electric front/rear drive would make a really potent 991? The 918's rear wheel steering is already employed by GT3/RS/TT.

FORENN

Yes, but PAG will announce it the following day.